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post #1 of 17 Old 09-06-2013, 12:24 AM Thread Starter
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Gold Valve Emulator "adapter"

SO, I can't seem to get an answer that I find acceptable. Some say you need an adaptor for the gold valve emulators. My local Racetech certified shop says you do. he also wants all new seals and wipes if he does my bike...Oh and 4 hours shop time.

Racetech's web page says that the '09 needs adaptors.

all how to's I have seen shows nothing about adaptors and after contacting Blair at SVRP he says I can order them but don't need them.

does anyone have an answer. yes, no, what's the difference? is it safety, productliability, do they make for an easier installation?

I want to get these ordered but want to make sure I have everything in one pocket before I grab a wrench.


I'm not racing, I'm just looking to tame the dive when I have to brake. My preload is set at 41mm right now but I hit the brakes in an emergency and I come close to bottoming out the suspension.

I hit a pretty good bump on a one lane bridge last weekend on 42/skyline from timothy lake while two up that slid my travel indicator (ziptie) within about 20 mm of the lower triple.

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The Ricor valves will stop the dive, not the Racetechs.

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TMCGEE; thank you for your input, as we all know it is the brotherhood of Stromtroopers that keep us coming back to this page. That being said and without venom I ask, How does your post help me? How does it help others that are looking for clarifications on the Racetech gold emulator adapters when they search for the subject?

I took the time to reread my post as I thought maybe there was something in there that implied that I hadn't already made a educated decision about what product and brand was in my opinion best for me and I was going to purchase after exhaustive research on this site and a few others.

Please if you have experience with Racetech Gold valve emulator adapters for the 2009 Suzuki V-Strom 650 weigh in and tell me your experience. If not please don't muddy the thread with unneeded, unsolicited opinions.

I apologize for being a 8===D but I am so tired of wading through dozens of replies in a thread that have nothing to do with the title. ever since reading the PCIII thread for my DL1000. hundreds of posts when about 6 are relevant.

This by the way is why we have unusable oil, tire and buffeting megathreads. Aint nobody got time for dat.

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I fiddled with the Racetech valves for a year and a half before buying Ricors. The Ricors attenuate brake dive significantly, the Racetechs do not. You said that's what you wanted to do. Beefing up the springs will also stop the dive. Out of the box, the Ricors felt better than the Racetech after my 18 months of fiddling with 4 different spring rates, 3 different emulator hole sizes, three different emulator springs, and three different fork oil viscosities.

Never heard of adapters before, the valves sit on top of the damper rods and I believe the damper rods are the same for all years of the DL650.

There are long threads here on each type of fork valve.

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To be fair, the last third of your original post talked about your problem with brake dive and springs that are most likely too soft for your weight, problems which the Gold Valves won't do anything about.

My nice response is tcmgee was only trying to be helpful and addressing the problems you mentioned, not wanting you to be disappointed when your upgrade doesn't do what you're hoping.

My not so nice response is instead of complaining about other threads that go all over the place, maybe you should have only posted about the adapters, and not "muddy up" your post by mentioning other problems besides the adapters, then have the nerve to get rude about it. Aint nobody got time for dat, and aint nobody want to help with dat.

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The Ricor valves will stop the dive, not the Racetechs.
No adapters needed either


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So I have waited a while hoping that someone might have actually done this upgrade and have information.

Anyone?

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In relation to adaptor, wouldnt the best thing be to call reace-tech people direct and ask them about this adaptor- not just whether u need it but what it suppose to do and why is needed on post K9 and not before, because part numbers for forks are the same on k9 and pre k9. Better still get them to send u some diagram so people who has disassemble the K9 to K11 can tell u their 2 cents.

In relation to intiminator vs emulator - look, they all do the same thing - just goes different ways - i dont think there is a clear winner in terms of results - one does better on certain things while the other on other things. I am still mesmerized by how well PeteW's old emulator (setup by local suspension mechanic) dealt with minor surface imperfection. Intiminator cant match that even with the mods- but what intiminator is very good at is dealing with is brake dive and large amplitude bumps (up to the travel limit).

BTW brake dive is not necessarily a bad thing - it helps your bike turn better into corner, if u trail brake.

So pick your poison, see how it goes and if not happy there is 2 long threads on this forum which tells you just all things you can do to either of those two items, to get you started. If everything is starting to sound contradictory then i am sorry but the one thing you wont get is a definitive answer which cures all - everyone's taste is different. You will find that if you go with emulator, you will certainly need to make sure it is correct for your weight and riding style - yes zip tie to measure it - you should be able to use all but the last 15-25mm of travel after a hard riding session over some bumpy roads. Intiminator can work with softer spring than which required for emulator but i disagree with Ricor's recommendation of just using stock spring unless you are less than say 80kg, otherwise you will benefit with a spring suited to your weight - sonic spring calculator gives a more realistic rate, but i would still consider dropping a step if compliance is more important than outright cornering performance on smooth roads if you choose intiminator

Local suspension guy tells me race-tech have a new "setting" for the emulator, essentially more bleed holes and softer valve springs. He is trying to get me to buy one so i could do what i did to intiminator and get a comparison !!!:mrgreen:

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Came across this.

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post #10 of 17 Old 09-18-2013, 08:49 AM Thread Starter
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@Todd; awesome thread! Answers 99% of my questions! Thank you!

Race tech replied to my query;

"Hi Troy,

Can you install the emulator without the adapter yes you can but we recommend an adapter to raise the locknut out of the well on the damper rod to allow more flow.

We recommend adapter FPEV AD4301 P $19.99

Thank You For Contacting Race Tech!"




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