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post #1 of 23 Old 06-18-2013, 02:27 PM Thread Starter
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Biased Ply or Radial?

If I go with the Anakee 3's what type?? Biased or radial? Is the 110/90-19 a good choice for the front? I figured don't need a speed rating over 130. Thoughts opinions?

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I would never choose a bias ply over a radial.

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in V-strom size, they only come radial

the bias size front is 100/90-19 or 90/90-21

and rear is only 120/90-17

all other sizes are radial even thought they have different speed ratings

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Other than your lawn tractor... who would buy a bias ply (assuming you can actually buy them) for any road vehicle, period?

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Knobbies like the TKC80 are still bias ply.

The 110/80 R 19 M/C 59V F TL is a great choice for the front. The V speed rating is about more than just speed. The tire may be more stable at highway speed than the H rated tire, although either would be very good. For the extra $6, I'd get the V. The "R" in the listing indicates Radial.
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Unquestionably, for cars a radial is a better choice than a cross-ply (bias-ply), except in rugged off road conditions.

But is this generally true for motorbikes?
Doubtless the wide-spread usage of the radial design for high-speed low-profile tyres comes from definite advantages there.

There are still plenty of bias ply (and bias belted) tyres available in higher profile / lower speed ratings.
Is it a matter of marginally cheaper manufacturing, or are there some real benefits to the older design? [Apart from perhaps a more damage resistant side-wall.]
Expert opinions welcome !

(I currently run Q-rated tyres, so the H versus V-speed-rated issue is well over my head.)
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Other than your lawn tractor... who would buy a bias ply (assuming you can actually buy them) for any road vehicle, period?
I guess that would be me.
I have a Heideneau K60 Scout on the rear of my 650 which is bias ply with 16,000 km on it and I wouldn't be suprised if I get another 4,000 before it is done.It is now my tire of choice for my bike.
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Unquestionably, for cars a radial is a better choice than a cross-ply (bias-ply), except in rugged off road conditions.

But is this generally true for motorbikes?
Doubtless the wide-spread usage of the radial design for high-speed low-profile tyres comes from definite advantages there.

There are still plenty of bias ply (and bias belted) tyres available in higher profile / lower speed ratings.
Is it a matter of marginally cheaper manufacturing, or are there some real benefits to the older design? [Apart from perhaps a more damage resistant side-wall.]
Expert opinions welcome !

(I currently run Q-rated tyres, so the H versus V-speed-rated issue is well over my head.)
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back in the mid '80s, CRREL (Cold Regions Research & Engineering Lab) of the Army Corps of Engineers did a study on radial tires for the US military, their research caused the military to start using radial tires on all their rubber tire vehicles, even slow moving ones going on rough terrain

I only remember this cause I went on an educational field trip thru the facility, cool stuff they do there

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pros of bias

the main reason that in my experience a person can benefit from a bias ply tire on a motorcycle is simple. feel. radial tires are better in that you can take the further in a turn before they will slide out on you. however they give you almost no warning of when you are at your limit of angle, but a bias ply tire has a more profound feeling at that point. so a beginner could benefit from understanding that feeling. most likely this is more important for someone in road racing, but knowing the limitations of your bike is never bad. Its like learning to race in a full on F1 car VS a 240z.
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the main reason that in my experience a person can benefit from a bias ply tire on a motorcycle is simple. feel. radial tires are better in that you can take the further in a turn before they will slide out on you. however they give you almost no warning of when you are at your limit of angle, but a bias ply tire has a more profound feeling at that point. so a beginner could benefit from understanding that feeling. most likely this is more important for someone in road racing, but knowing the limitations of your bike is never bad. Its like learning to race in a full on F1 car VS a 240z.
Is there documentation for that asertation about the superiority of bias ply tires under certain circumstances?

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