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post #1 of 17 Old 06-18-2013, 01:55 PM Thread Starter
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What is currently (as of 2013) the best VALUE in shock upgrade?

I just put Sonic Springs in the fork of my DL650AK7. (I weigh 230lbs, so put .90 springs in with 10W oil for now.)

Now I'm ready to address the rear. I've done a lot of reading here and seen many options...but many of the posts are dated anywhere from a year ago to many years ago. So I'm just seeking a 2013 update on what is the best VALUE (bang for buck) for the rear shock?

There are obviously 2 ways to go:
a) upgrade the spring (but keep the stock shock)
b) replace the entire shock.

Though I'm willing to spend up to $400 or so (can't afford an Elka!), I'm leaning toward whatever will make the biggest difference for the least $$$. I know you get what you pay for...but I also think that saying is independent of value.

Any advice on current options is much appreciated! Oh, and I mentioned I weigh 230lbs (maybe closer to 240lbs in full gear) and occasionally ride 2-up with my 140lb wife plus gear...so I'm looking for something that can handle the added load for 2-up.

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post #2 of 17 Old 06-18-2013, 02:16 PM
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Racetech quoted me something around $575 for a rebuild, revalve and respring of my stock '07 shock, basically netting me a new shock built for my weight and riding style. It's a bit above your price range, but seemed like a good deal to me. I also could not afford that, so ended up having it rebuilt to stock specs with stock spring and that cost me about $300, shipping not included. Nice thing about rebuilding the stocker, is you get to keep the hydraulic preload. Getting an aftermarket one with hyd preload is $$$

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The RT rebuild takes the OEM shock, welds a recharge bung into it, recharges it, replaces all bushings/slides/glides, rebuilds and refreshes the hyd. preload. Once the recharge bung is installed I imagine you could have any competent local suspension shop rebuild it ad infinitum ... or maybe even said shop could do the whole rebuild for you in the first place. I know that RT did a top notch job on mine and feel it was worth shipping it out to them (Pomona CA)

RaceTech told me that if I wanted to go with a heavier spring (I opted not to) they'd have to revalve the shock to match lest the heavier spring overwhelm the stock valving.

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Looking forward to your replies, thinking along the same lines. How do like the front springs and 10 weight oil? Thanks
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Looking forward to your replies, thinking along the same lines. How do like the front springs and 10 weight oil? Thanks
The biggest thing I noticed right away with the Sonic springs (.90) was no front-end dive on braking. That's really nice! Otherwise, the ride feels a bit harsher/stiffer, but not in a bad way, just different. I do think it's better overall, because the front of the bike just doesn't seem to "bounce 'n buck" as much as it did before (not that it did much, but you know what I mean).

Some folks say there's no point in upgrading springs if you don't upgrade valves (or install emulators). I don't agree---just getting rid of the front-end dive on braking was worth it (let alone any improvements in the ride). But valves/emulators might help more.

I did both (front and rear) to my KLR a few years ago...and putting a heavier/stiffer spring in back made a much bigger difference than new fork springs (which is why I still want to do that to the Wee!).

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For your budget, in the rear, I think the "better" choice would be a Sasquatch rebuild, and the "good" choice is definitely a proper spring, like you've done up front. The difference will be day and night.

I finally did the "best", which was the Elka in the rear, and there's simply no comparison to a stock Strom. Also did springs and emulators up front.

Yes, a lot of $$$, but.....when I sell my bike, I can almost be sure that if I list my rear shock on this forum, and it's still in great shape, I will recoup more than half it's value....very easily, and very fast. So, at the end of the day, the upfront costs are higher, but I will get so much more performance during the time I own the bike.

That said, first and foremost, replacing the springs, front and rear, will be the the least expensive way to get the most change/improvement....I'm 230lbs as well
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FYI, Sasquatch won't be working on any shocks for a long, long time....he's currently an all-inclusive guest of the State, if you know what I mean.

That said, Progressive Suspension makes a decent shock, off the rack for around 4 hundred bux. No fancy hydraulic preload adjuster - only a hammer and chisel preload ring, but it's a quality product and is inexpensive.

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FYI, Sasquatch won't be working on any shocks for a long, long time....he's currently an all-inclusive guest of the State, if you know what I mean.
Oh, I was not "in the know"......too bad, I know he had some happy customers, guess a couple unhappy ones can really ruin your day though.
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In the budget of $400, you cannot be chooser.

4 options. 1st, rebuild by somebody, Sasquatch is in jail. 2d, rebuild by yourself. 3d, pick up a used one. 4th, 465 progressive w/o remote preload.

I went with the progressive. Got it off ebay, the seller made me an offer, even after that, counting shipment in, and canadian taxes it was nearly $500.

It does make a difference, big or not, it is a personal perception.
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HyperPro is about $640 last time I checked, put a LOT of miles on mine on the '07, bought another for the 2012.

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Some have found the Progressive Suspension brand shock to be an insufficient upgrade over the stock shock.

There have been postings in the past about independent shops that upgraded the stock shock. A listing of these would be a good candidate for a sticky. Otherwise, I'd go with a RaceTech upgrade of the stock shock.

10 wt is the viscosity of the stock fork oil. Upgrading the springs is the first step for the front and can be done separately from upgrading the valving. Of course, springs and valves is better.

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