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post #1 of 8 Old 05-07-2013, 04:38 PM Thread Starter
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My tire tale - new Pirelli Scorpion rear

I had 11,000+ miles on the stock tires for my Glee. Two weeks ago I found a nail in the rear tire. There had been no pressure loss, so maybe I should have left well-enough alone. But, I couldn't do that!
I pulled the nail, hoping the Ride-on would seal it up. To my great disappointment, it didn't. Even with a few pump-up and test runs to warm up the tire and spread the goo around (I hoped). So, I ended up plugging the nail hole with the gooey string type plug, and rode on it for another 500 mile or so while I waited for a new tire to get delivered.
This was my first moto tire change, and it was quite a learning process. It went according to plan, but took a lot of wrestling and re-starting. It also took longer than I hoped. I used large c-clamps to break the beads. Next time I hope to invent some leverage device as seen on the interwebs.
For the new tire, I decided to go with a Pirelli Scorpion Trail Dual Sport. They got some good reviews (though not much from Strommers). It looked like a balanced choice for a 95% / 5% rider. And, they were on the cheap side of the premium tires ($145 at motorcycle-superstore, free shipping). I did a rough and ready static balance using sawhorses and the rear axle. Then added Ride-on to this tire.
Today was my first ride and we had a heavy Virginia downpour. So, with a brand new tire and rain-slick roads, I didn't do any testing of the limits. But, I get a good feel from the tire.
I think I could have gotten about another 2,000 miles off the original rear. The front tire is going strong so I kept it. I'd like to replace both tire for esthetics, but this will have to work for now with my budget.
In review, I was disappointed with the Ride-on, but when I took the tire off, I saw that the nail hole was just 1/4 inch shy of the covered area. Nothing's perfect, and I went with the Ride-on again for the balancing and extended tire life. I also decided I should have a plug kit with me on the bike.
I now can think about what to do with the front tire when the time comes.

I am glad I did the change myself, a shop would have been faster at the work, but then I'd have to transport the bike/tire. They'd be much more professional, but, there's a good amount of feel-good from doing it yourself in the garage - and knowing you can do it!

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post #2 of 8 Old 05-12-2013, 02:08 PM
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Good job. Nothing is better then doing it yourself. It's a good feeling, end less expensive.
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As far as matching your tires, I haven't for quite a while and haven't noticed any odd or unpleasant tendencies. Good tire just seem to work.
I'da gone with the original style since you got such great mileage with them.
What were they?
I've been using Battle Wings and they go away between 4500 and 6000 miles. They are nice to the end but the end comes to soon. Wah!
I just got a Tourance rear and am hoping for your type on mileage.
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post #4 of 8 Old 05-13-2013, 10:35 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks. Maybe the tire gods were happy - or giving me a break since it seems like everything else has fallen down on me this year (house heater broken, steep tax bill, van breakdowns, power outages, blah blah blah). But, yes, I thought I was getting really good mileage form my dealer/new stock Trailwings. My riding was through the winter, so maybe temperature played a part. My commute was about 10% with a passenger, otherwise it was loaded with a topcase used in normal commuting (clothing layers, few tools, lunch). My route is mostly two-lane country roads (thank heaven) that are more like occasional-winding rather than 'twisties.' So there is not an excess of highway or straight line riding. Speeds usually around 50 MPH or a bit more. I'm not hard on the gas or brakes, normally. It must be a good formula for tire wear. Especially true since the front tire still has some life at 12,000+ miles.

As a ride report, the Pirelli rear has about 600 miles on it now. It's scuffed-up and I've been riding like normal. The tire is great. I believe the Scorpion Trail is, or was, the stock tire for the Multistrada, and I think you can feel that heritage for sporty riding. Very good road feel, on highway it's particularly well behaved and smooth. Traction has been excellent. I've had a bunch of rain this last week. Wet handling has been great too, the tire stays planted. I actually was amazed to see that I was (unintentionally) taking corners in the wet actually faster than I did on the original set of tires. Of course new tiers are often euphoric, so take my praise in stride. I think I'm noticing smaller chicken-strips on the Pirelli too, so that shows confidence. On the hard pack gravel roads I take, the Pirelli feels the same as the Trailwing.
So far, so good!
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post #5 of 8 Old 05-21-2013, 03:27 PM Thread Starter
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1200 mile update

Well, the Scorpion is doing well. I did get into trouble on a loose gravel road and wiped out big-time with plenty of damage. However, I think the tire is not to blame. I'd blame the guy holding the handlebars at the time.
The rear tire is just over 1200 miles now. The roads are typically two-lane roads with speeds between 40 and 55 usually. The tire performs very well in wet and high-speed. The road feel and response is excellent. I have not noticed any squaring off of the rear yet. So far so good. I'll expect to get good miles from this the way it looks.
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" I'm not hard on the gas or brakes"

Well, that explains where I go wrong. I have gotten between 10K and 4.5K milkes on the same dang tires. Two different brands. I guess I get to where I trust them second time around and go for the gonzo. Makes my tire guy happy.
I should know better, heck, I'm old!
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Don't get me wrong, why ride a motorcycle if you don't air it out a little?
I have noted that the Pirelli feels so good that I do run it harder and ask more of it on corners - at least on occasion.
My riding is my daily commute, which doesn't accommodate constant spirited twists of the wrist. Plus - although I'm sure the local law enforcement are all great people - I have no desire to meet any of them roadside. I don't think they give much slack in VA.
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post #8 of 8 Old 07-22-2013, 03:56 PM Thread Starter
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4,000 mile update

Well, the daily grind has gone on, and I've got over 4,000 miles on the 'new' Scorpion. It's squared-off the rear a little, but not so bad that I feel a drop or a change in the lean-in. The tire wear has been very good, traction has never faltered. Wet traction in standing water, as well as torrential downpour has been fantastic. The tire handles the unexpected rock in the road and loose stuff all in stride (seems grippy enough to get reseated - if that makes any sense). I haven't found any cupping or rounding the lugs. There is no tearing or cuts like you'll see sometimes on the edges of other tires, which speaks well for the rubber compound. The tread design seems to be very good from a traction and wear perspective. Tread life looks like it will be long, at least with how and where I ride.
Road feel has been fine, and it's kept air pressure without problems. I did have two wipe-outs on deep, just-graded, gravel, but that was not the tire's fault (I think).
I think it's a two-thumbs-up tire so far. I'm due for a front tire now and I'm debating going Scorpion, or probably Anakee III - just to see how they are.
So far, so good!
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