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post #11 of 36 Old 08-02-2019, 06:44 AM
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I don't believe in leashes either but also I don't believe in letting your dog out unsupervised to roam about as they please. I also believe that if your dog is not trained and responds to voice commands then to need to take measures to keep control of the dog. This like most dog bite incidence is 10% the dogs fault and 90% the owners fault. But unfortunately the dog will suffer the consequence's.

I too am in the camp of call the law and let it be know what happened. What if you were hauling a child and the dog got ahold of them. This is a no win situation especially for the dog.

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post #13 of 36 Old 08-02-2019, 09:32 AM
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If all dog owners took that much time to train their dogs to immediately obey voice commands, and kept their dogs under observation (rather than just opening the back door and sending them out into the world for the day), then I wouldn't believe in leashes either. Since that doesn't happen, and since my right to ride or walk unmolested on a public street trumps Fido's right to pursue me like prey, then leashes (or fences, or some other manner to restrict movement) it is.
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It the there are no bad dogs just bad owners thing coming up. Getting a pup is the easy part. Training, properly and regularly exercising the pup it where it usually falls apart.

We have a GSP that is a very high strung breed. I could walk a marathon with Holly on a leash beside me and when we got home she'd be like that was fun now lets go burn off some energy and play for a couple hours. She needs run and we facilitate that by playing chuckit with a tennis ball usually 5 to 7 times per week with each session lasting an hour. During the summer its hard because of the heat so sessions are 5 or 10 minutes then into the house to drink and cool off then repeat several times.

By doing this several things. 1st you get to bond with the dog spending hours and hour with them. Second a tired dog is an obedient and well mannered dog. 3rd it get you outside and doing something fun instead of vegging in front of the TV.
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I also think it would be a public service to report a dangerous dog. The fact that it drew blood only underscores what a problem it is. If it were a child next time on a tricycle, the results could be a lot worse.

In my MSF class so long ago, they said the best strategy is to go slow and allow the dog to think it's got you, then speed up right before it catches up with you. That way, it won't have time to change course and intercept you further on. Of course, since you were involved in a tight, slow speed maneuver, this idea wouldn't have worked, I suppose. Glad to see you weren't hurt worse than you were, but the owner of the animal should have to make some changes in the way the dog is handled. Of course, that might mean the poor animal spends his life chained up to a tree...
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That's always the issue, Perazzi....the "there are no bad dogs, just bad owners" outlook.

It doesn't matter that the dog is or isn't properly trained when it comes down to being bit because a dog running was running loose, or not responding to it's owner's commands. The dog isn't responsible for it's actions; it's a dog. It can't be held accountable, so all the responsibility and accountability falls back on the owner. And since there are no laws that require a pet owner to properly train their dogs (at least nowhere I've ever lived), the only laws that offer any semblance of safety to the general public are laws that force the owners to physically restrain their dogs so they can't wander loose, either through leash laws or laws that require physical barriers to keep the dogs confined to the owner's property.

I firmly believe that, in a situation like the OP described, and absent any other criminal penalties, the owner of that dog should be compelled to purchase dog liability insurance against any future dog attacks, and should be compelled to attend special dog training. They should treat people who let their dogs run loose and attack people the same way they treat people who carelessly store or handle firearms that result in other people being injured.

You sound like a very responsible dog owner, Perazzi. If all of them had your outlook, then this would be a rare issue. Sadly, it's not...just recently in the area I live, a 64 year old woman who was out for a walk was attacked and killed by a couple pit bulls that were running loose.

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RCinNC I'm not disagreeing with you. The root problem is people and these people not wanting to responsible for their decisions and/or actions

About a month ago my daughter was letting the dog out for her morning routine and noticed a box at road at the end of the neighbors lot. She when to pick it up to throw away being responsible for someone else's trash) and when she picked it up the box moved. She opened the box and found a bag of hay, rabbit food, empty water bottle and underneath all of that was a juvenile bunny struggling for its life. It was early in the morning and was in the mid 70's with the mercury was climbing rapidly. The bunny would not have made it another hour or so. So because of the irresponsibility of another we decided to do the responsible thing and give this bunny a proper home. She now lives in the TV room in a hutch and her the dog and cat get along like they've lived together all their lives. I'd would love to find the SOB that dumped her off to die and stick them in a box and let it in the sun until they were near death.
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If it was the wrong pit bull (or Belgian Malinois) you may have been lunch. I was just reading where another one killed and started to eat it's owner. Now I know of a pair of really friendly ones too but some of them scare me and I used to take care of about twenty Great Danes (show dogs) many moons ago (high school) although most of them were friendly. We had one owner jailed years ago when her animal mauled some other ladies face. I also think most of the local riders here are armed but that is Missouri but it may not help if you are wrestling your bike around. I also carry bear spray.

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Pit Bulls scare me too, SECoda. I've certainly met very friendly, awesome ones, just like I've met flat out vicious Yorkies. Pit Bulls and other large breeds scare more than Yorkies because my chances of being seriously injured by a Yorkie are pretty slim, but a 80-100+ lb dog can do a LOT of damage. I think Rottweilers scare me the most of all. I was riding once when I saw one in someone's front yard, maybe 200 feet away from me. It saw me at about the same time, and it started towards me at a full run. Not a sound, no barking, just full speed ahead, running at me at an angle to try and cut me off. On that particular day I had just enough of a head start that I could pedal faster than he could run, but he hung on plenty long enough to demonstrate to me that he had every intention of making contact. That incident is what prompted me to start carrying a pepper spray fogger. I rode in Pennsylvania for years and only encountered a smattering of dogs; once I moved to NC, it became a regular occurrence.
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Chihuahuas and Jack Russell terriers are actually the most aggressive breeds, but their size and physical limitations prevent them from killing people. It's all too common with pit bulls. Belgian Malinois are the same but there are fewer at least in the US at this point (We have a Belgian Tervuren which are the long-haired friendly flavor of Belgian Shepard's - he might lick one to death). I was at a county fair where a sheriff asked a couple to leave with a pit bull that was barking at everyone that came near. What were they thinking?

For motorcycles I would suggest at least carrying bear spray but know how to use it. (most folks end up spraying themselves) It needs to be accessible (like a tank bag and not zip tied. lol)

Here are a few recent ones...

Says Sheriff Agnew. "Once a dog tastes human flesh, it's no longer safe to have that dog around humans."

https://blog.dogsbite.org/2019/07/do...utterback.html

https://nypost.com/2019/03/24/pit-bu...wner-in-texas/

https://www.nbc12.com/story/37093192...-her-to-death/
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