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post #11 of 39 Old 04-05-2019, 07:00 AM
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Does it make sense to add sliders when you already have engine guards providing what I thought is overall better protection? I never had sliders, so this is an honest question not a statement.

Agree with others here saying a little scratch or two is no big deal. My 20-year old Harley still looked “like new” to everyone but me when I sold it. It had been down a few times but only I knew where to look. Nothing ever broke. Battle scars.
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I've had the same question. There are some setups where you can have both crash bars/engine guards, AND effective sliders.

One such is the Altrider system. You put their crash bars on, and then they have a slider bar that goes through the bike's frame & lower part of the crash bars. This slider bar has plastic pucks on the ends.

The sliders are likely to hit first, in the event of a drop, lowside, etc. They transmit force first to the crash bars, rather than directly to the bike frame. The "pucks" on the ends of the slider bar are replaceable.

The crash bars do ultimately transfer force to the bike frame, since they are attached to it. However, since the lower half of the bars is not rigidly attached, there is some flex there to soak up impact. I would much rather replace or repair a set of crash bars than the bike's frame.

Altrider's is a clever system, if expensive. Available in both DL650 and DL1000 flavors.

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There's really no way to 100% protect the bike in a fall. Somethings gonna get barked up. Pick up a beater bike if you want to practice slow stuff.

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Just get good boots and keep your feet and legs under the bike when you fall. Hurts, but the bike does not get scratched up much. Thats what I do....
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Dropping the bike will instantly cure your "Phallophbia."
The important thing I learned about making slow tight turns, fast sweepers, or U-turns, is scan for hazards or obstacles before you enter a turn then look through the turn to where you want to end up, not where you are currently. Your brain will put the bike where you are looking, every time. If I am fixated on the rocky ditch at the edge of the apex in a turn instead of the right-of-center of the road at the end of the turn, that is precisely where I will ride to: high-sided in the ditch. I have two crushed vertebrae for proof.
U-turns are the same. For instance in a left U-turn, look back over your left shoulder, not at the sandy edge, wall, or Ferrari parked at the opposite curb, because that is where you will end up. Concentrate on where you want the bike to be not on where you are headed. This technique flat works-even feet upon the boards, two up on a Harley Road King.
Think of a quarterback throwing a pass. The ball is thrown to where the receiver will be when it should be caught, not to where the receiver is when the ball is released.
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Just get good boots and keep your feet and legs under the bike when you fall. Hurts, but the bike does not get scratched up much. Thats what I do....
ROTFLMAO !!!
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Dropping the bike will instantly cure your "Phallophbia."
The important thing I learned about making slow tight turns, fast sweepers, or U-turns, is scan for hazards or obstacles before you enter a turn then look through the turn to where you want to end up, not where you are currently. Your brain will put the bike where you are looking, every time. If I am fixated on the rocky ditch at the edge of the apex in a turn instead of the right-of-center of the road at the end of the turn, that is precisely where I will ride to: high-sided in the ditch. I have two crushed vertebrae for proof.
U-turns are the same. For instance in a left U-turn, look back over your left shoulder, not at the sandy edge, wall, or Ferrari parked at the opposite curb, because that is where you will end up. Concentrate on where you want the bike to be not on where you are headed. This technique flat works-even feet upon the boards, two up on a Harley Road King.
Think of a quarterback throwing a pass. The ball is thrown to where the receiver will be when it should be caught, not to where the receiver is when the ball is released.
Motorcycling, like anything, takes practice
Totally agree, this is classic motorcycle training. Look where you want to go
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For me that's the hardest part. Believing the bike will go where I'm looking, instead of hit something or fall over.
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FWIW, my engine guard, bark busters, bash plate and Givi plastic cases have taken everything that I've given them. Sure, they're scratched. The bash plate is dented from some ledges. Parts around my center stand have a new profile. The bike has gone over 15 times (at least) So what? I am in one piece. The bike is fine.

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I don't think that any bike taking a nap is the biggest fear. It WILL happen, at one or other point in a person's biking career. The thought of any damage (cost), whether you are able to pick a fallen bike up (unaided), how you landed after the fall (personal injury) or did anyone see you fall (vanity). These, I would say, is the are the fears of falling.
For what its worth, I have survived a few unplanned falls myself, both on road and off road.
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