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post #21 of 37 Old 04-05-2019, 01:16 PM
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Finally had a chance to watch the video posted earlier.

The "high-traction environment" U-turn technique is interesting, but looks harder than the clutch-slipping method I learned at RLAP. You have to get a lot of things right, and all at once. I haven't tried it yet, but I'll be astonished if I get through the first few attempts without falling over, or else running way wide.

We discussed shifting body position during the RLAP class. Crossing up was an option, but not really needed to pull off the U-turns or Figure 8's. I didn't try crossing up, because I had enough to do in getting the other things right. The motorcycle cop who did some of the instruction stayed straight on his seat the whole time. That didn't keep him from doing amazing things with his patrol bike.

That is to say, there are at least a couple of different ways to do a full-lock U-turn.

RLAP is certainly pavement-oriented, as it's mostly aimed at those riding big heavy cruisers. However, the techniques work with any size bike. Should also work for low-traction surfaces, since you can go as slowly and carefully as you like, as the guy in the video does on wet leaves.

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Best suggestion, crash bars, and set her down a couple times to get over that fear. Motojitsu aka Fast Eddie on youtube has a great series on this.

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VStrom 650 works great in motogymkhana. There, tight turns are performed very often.
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I have been working on this some recently.

It would really help if I had some of those low-profile, fluorescent green and orange cones that can be safely run over.

For me the hardest part is pressing the "I Believe" button when doing a U-turn within the width of a street. It DOES work, but nearly every time, I have that scary feeling I'm gonna hit a parked car or curb before I get all the way around.

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When I can add links to movies, I will show you a U-turn exercise on a 4m lane marked by half-cut tennis balls. :-)

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......For me the hardest part is pressing the "I Believe" button when doing a U-turn within the width of a street. It DOES work, but nearly every time, I have that scary feeling I'm gonna hit a parked car or curb before I get all the way around......
That's where the "Empty Parking Lot Practice Practice Practice" comes into play. You can use the parking lane lines as a reference. Two parking lanes would represent a narrow road. If you practice and can comfortably achieve a U Turn within those two parking spaces, you're golden!!!

Here's a YouTube video that may help. It shows the parking lot technique.

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h t t p s ://youtu.be/7XpD0rdf3DE

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That's where the "Empty Parking Lot Practice Practice Practice" comes into play. You can use the parking lane lines as a reference. Two parking lanes would represent a narrow road. If you practice and can comfortably achieve a U Turn within those two parking spaces, you're golden!!!

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Bret Tkacs makes some useful vids. I've followed his advice when on dirt recently, and found it really helped.

For instance, I'm sitting farther forward lately when off pavement. It really does increase the feeling of control.

Unfortunately, it seems like he does all his teaching in Oregon, too far away for me to attend.

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I went to an off road skills course taught by a BMW trainer (German guy employed by BMW Germany) and learned so much in such a seemingly simple exercise. One bit of advice received was that you can't do more than a couple things at once, so just automatically pulse the throttle when doing a U-turn in low traction/low speed environment. That way it's there to use and you don't have to be concerned about throttle modulation. This allows you to focus on all the other things you're doing (balance, looking, clutch). It was pretty helpful because among the (many) times I fell, it was usually because I killed the engine.
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