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post #11 of 22 Old 03-19-2019, 11:47 AM
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flash our aux lights with our directional lights.
(I bet the Blinker Geni" thing could do that)
I imagine wiring the Blinker Genie (BG) output to a relay for the aux lights would do the trick.
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I have this but I need to tone them down a bit. Seem to do what intended though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n14ByGvbbjk
Man, that's pretty intense & may hypnotize the drivers. Another issue will be when they look in the rear-view mirror they will think you are the PoPo and pull over....or worse slam on their brakes. I now some riders like some kinda flashing light up front, but not for me. A flashing brake light is ok in my book and I do have one of those.

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Maybe one of the smart kids will spell out the best way to flash our aux lights with our directional lights.
(I bet the Blinker Geni" thing could do that)
That is actually a great idea....should not be hard to do. I think you would just need to find each side turn signal positive leg(down in the harness near the goose neck), then add a section of wire directly to the aux light tying them into a relay. Might need a diode to keep the turn signal off when Aux is on?

Kisan makes a module that turns the turn signals into running lights all the time, then flashes them when the turn indicator switch is on. Seems like that would cover it ......aux and turn signals always on, both blink when turning?
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Maybe one of the smart kids will spell out the best way to flash our aux lights with our directional lights.
(I bet the Blinker Genie" thing could do that)
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That is actually a great idea....should not be hard to do. I think you would just need to find each side turn signal positive leg(down in the harness near the goose neck), then add a section of wire directly to the aux light tying them into a relay. Might need a diode to keep the turn signal off when Aux is on?

Kisan makes a module that turns the turn signals into running lights all the time, then flashes them when the turn indicator switch is on. Seems like that would cover it ......aux and turn signals always on, both blink when turning?
I'm happy to corrected if I have the math wrong. The OEM incandescent directional bulb is 28.4w. With my 18w aux light plus a LED directional bulb at 3.8w is 21.8 (6.6 w less). And I'm guessing that the in-rush of the LED is less than that of the incandescent bulb.

I was just looking at the BlinkerGenie site which reads "High-Power capability of 12A/ 180 Watts (2A/ 25 Watts recommended)." https://www.customled.com/products/blinker-genie. ($25 front / $25 rear)
Don't think a relay would be required and the diode would not be needed either if you don't mind the front indicator light also serving as a running light. That is what I do on my rear directionals. They serve as running lights and the Genie shuts them off to cause the blinking. Works the same for hazard function.
I just sent them an email asking for a sanity check.
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On my Harley, I replaced the front turn indicators with Dynamic Ringz from Custom Dynamics.

I wish something like that was available for the Strom.
You could always replace the turn indicators on the Strom with ones from a Harley. Might look a little strange, but would get the job done.
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I have this but I need to tone them down a bit. Seem to do what intended though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n14ByGvbbjk
Don't think that would be legal in most of the US.

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Just got that clarification from Skene:

Since the light functions as both running light AND turn signal it must be an amber light to conform to US regulations for color of front turn indicator lights.

I was enquiring if their device could dim my running lights to make the indicator more visible, while it is activated. It can't, it would blink in sync with the indicator.

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Don't think that would be legal in most of the US.
As I said in the original thread; I followed LEO's and met LEO's in 5 states (including yours) and 2 provinces and they never batted an eye. They are not illegal in my province as near as anyone can tell and nobody has been able to find a statute for a state to my knowledge. That being said, I am going to tone them down a little bit.

As a bit of an aside....straight pipes are illegal in most jurisdictions but how many times have you seen anyone pulled over and ticketed for them?

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NVDucati -- Your math looks correct to me. I just never trust the actual specs from, well...just about anyone. There's a reason they recommend 2A / 25W, and I don't know that I would even trust those numbers. But I'm a major skeptic; would probably work just fine.

I have the same setup as you in the front: BlinkerGenie for indicator lamps as both turn signals and running lights. Around these parts, amber rear running lights are illegal (but, oddly to my mind, amber rear brake lights on a motorcycle are ok).

blaustrom -- Since most aux lights don't have tight beams or a proper cutoff, they require dimming, anyway, so as to not blast oncoming drivers' retinas into oblivion. PWM dimmers are cheap and ubiquitous. I like the ones Diode Dynamics with built-in bypass (though I got mine before they doubled the price).

For my setup, I have aux / conspicuity lights dimmed with lowbeams, and full power with highbeams. I dim them enough to not blast oncoming traffic's retinas and to ensure my turn signals are visible. (Note I don't use the dimmers noted above for this, the dimmers are left over from a prior, failed project.)

drrod -- Just because one can, doesn't mean one should.
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NVDucati -- Your math looks correct to me. I just never trust the actual specs from, well...just about anyone. There's a reason they recommend 2A / 25W, and I don't know that I would even trust those numbers. But I'm a major skeptic; would probably work just fine.
I try to never step between a biker and their skepticism because I feel the same way.

I just got a reply from the maker of BlinkerGenie.
"Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. As long as you are below the recommended 25W power draw, you can use the Blinker Genie to control whatever lamps you like! Go ahead and hook it all up. You should be fine when drawing less than 25Watts through it.
Jon
www.CustomLED.com"


My skepticism that they have a margin built in above 25w. So I feel comfortable doing this with no relay.
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