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post #11 of 59 Old 06-26-2018, 09:44 PM
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I found this video really helpful...and reassuring. He addresses both dry and wet pavement traction. Surprisingly, you don’t lose as much traction on wet pavement as most people think. Having said that, I still have a mental hang up about riding on wet pavement.


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That's a helpful video. He's saying that the tires can handle about 0.9g of lateral force on wet pavement, which is way more than I expected. That would imply a lean angle of about 42 degrees. I don't think I'll be trying to lean that far anytime soon, but I find that reassuring.
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Ive never had a problem riding in the rain EXCEPT for one little tidbit of advice--wet railroad tracks are not your friend.

I was riding my '81 CB750K, about 30 mph in the rain, the railroad tracks came across my lane at an angle. the front, then the rear slipped. But to this day I still dont know how I kept the bike upright in forward motion.
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Generally I slow in the rain but I still pass cars that are more cautious than me.
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Personally I love riding in the rain, particularly when there are 'faster' bikes around. Sports bike brakes for corner, I don't, ride around sports bike, check mirrors and no more sports bike. Given the very aggressive policing around here I'm usually riding faster in the rain than I am in the dry.

Tires make a huge difference and as pointed out above, being smooth is the trick but the geometry and wide bars on DL's give you a huge edge, I do occasionally slide around a bit but it's always been recoverable so far - and that's with more than ten years of riding DL's.

I would suggest getting experience riding in rain in conditions that aren't otherwise stressful, quiet country roads with a few curves, not on a motorway or in heavy commuter traffic because a lot of being good in rain is being confident.
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I am as happy riding in the rain as I am in the dry and there is little difference to my speeds on the road in either condition. There is just a different dynamic though because things that could be slippery in the dry will be extra slippery in the wet and one takes account of that.

Smoothness in all aspects of your riding are the most important in the wet. In short insofar as conditions allow, no sudden actions. ABS can be a real friend in the wet. TC not as much imho unless one is really giving the throttle welly.

Some riders slow right down in the wet. Imho this is a double edged sword in that they are not getting enough heat into the tyres. As such when they need good grip for hard braking or acceleration the tyres are not warm enough to grip. My practice is to allow a few miles of steady riding from a start to get some heat into the tyres and then increase my speed as the tyres warm up.

Tyres are of course a very important consideration. Some are better than others and I never spare money when it comes to tyre choice. My safety is far more important on the road than saving pennies on cheaper tyres. Keep in mind that some OEM tyres are appallingly bad as I found out on my former CRF1000L Africa Twin. They nearly had me off in the wet several times despite my almost 50 years experience. They were disposed of with only 2000kms on them !

Lastly the best way to gain confidence in the wet is to get loads of practice at it. Do not shy away from riding on wet days. Put the gear on and get out in it. If all goes to plan You will eventually enjoy it as much as I do. The only bit I hate is setting off from home in wet weather. Once I am out in it though everything is good.
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EDIT: Damn Griff, great minds really do think alike! and very nearly simultaneously too

Our arms are steering dampers and they need to remain relaxed to function properly. This is true whether the roads are wet or dry. Many riders are much more tense in the rain and tend to lock their arms when the bike gives a little twitch.

Maintaining a light touch on all the controls is proper technique; wet or dry. Hang loose and enjoy the ride.

It's very much like riding a dirt bike in deep sugar sand. Give the bike room to move a little and make no sudden changes in velocity.
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I enjoy riding in the rain, especially away from heavy traffic. Light rain esp..heavy can affect visibility. As mentioned watch out for tar snakes, metal covers or ramps. Should also mention painted sections at intersections too, and be careful where you put your feet down..your boot can slip on intersection paint, some oil etc when stopped, especially in the wet. Try some hard braking in a parking lot or a quiet street. You will be surprised how much traction you have in the wet, especially once you get some heat in your tires.
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As others have said, smoothness is key. Another point is that in the wet you can brake pretty hard, accelerate pretty hard and corner kinda hard, but you can only do one thing at a time! Get your braking done in a straight line, corner on a neutral throttle, get the bike mostly upright and then accelerate.

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As others have said, smoothness is key. Another point is that in the wet you can brake pretty hard, accelerate pretty hard and corner kinda hard, but you can only do one thing at a time! Get your braking done in a straight line, corner on a neutral throttle, get the bike mostly upright and then accelerate.
^^^Really good advice right there. Always keep that “traction budget” in mind.

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