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Riding Proficiency Tips and suggestions for improving the rider's safety skills and riding techniques

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post #1 of 16 Old 09-18-2017, 08:22 AM Thread Starter
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Never too old to learn?

Just wondering how many riders out there have any sort of training behind them? Over the last few years I've attended various road focused training sessions, largely as a result of enrolling my teenage son and then going along on the course with him. I have to say that after every session I've come out with some little extra insight or new thought even though this was not my expectation.

Some instructors focused solely on fast cornering while others seemed more interested in identifying hazards. It was really interesting getting the different views from various instructors even though they didn't always agree. Whatever their opinion, I came out of each session knowing that my son was now a little more prepared for life on two wheels and that maybe a little bit had rubbed off on me too.

Yep, I'm all in favour of rider training.
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post #2 of 16 Old 09-18-2017, 08:58 AM
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Have rode a lot with no breaks since the 60s.Main means of transportation since 1973. When in my early 60s my SNL got his first motorcycle.He had rode other friends a little before.Of the lots of people rode with over the years a lot of them were new riders. The ones that had taken the beginner corse really Impressed me.Told my SNL that if he would take the course I would take it with him.He agreed and it was a three day course. First two days storms around and he wanted to take his truck.
On the second day we started real riding on the small 125-200 bikes.We did it one at a time with all the 14 in my class looking on.One was older than me by a year.After my turn I set down on the long bench with others to watch next one.One of the teacher's came over and sat down by me at the end away from others by ten feet. He leaned in and said"You ride really good!Do you own a bike?" I did not say yes I have ten .Just said yes I do thank you.Two did not pass one was the year older than me,they let them do it again free if they want.
Last day we rode the bikes the 50 miles to the test and was on my 1700 RoadStar. Same teacher came over and said"You have a big bike. Really it did make me feel good that he thought I rode good. Did not really learn any thing new but did see easy how rusty I had become.The old look ahead not right in front of you was the main one I had not been doing as well on as in sport bike days.To me would be a good idea to make all riders take at least the first course for safe part more than any thing.
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A track day, with race-track lessons, was an eye-opening experience for me. Having ridden for 50+ years, I knew nearly everything....I thought. Bikes are amazing now with what they can do and lessons on a track help you understand that. A safety course would be a good idea for me as a refresher. I need to look into that.

I learned something from uTube the other day. There is a fine line between scraping the footpegs and losing control due to grinding hard parts under there. I scraped real hard the other day with my wife on the back while playing with some guys on a group ride. I since realized how close that likely was to going down. I know she would never have gotten on again had I crashed. Moral: confidence is good. Overconfidence is an accident waiting to happen.
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A track day, with race-track lessons, was an eye-opening experience for me. Having ridden for 50+ years, I knew nearly everything....I thought. Bikes are amazing now with what they can do and lessons on a track help you understand that. A safety course would be a good idea for me as a refresher. I need to look into that.

I learned something from uTube the other day. There is a fine line between scraping the footpegs and losing control due to grinding hard parts under there. I scraped real hard the other day with my wife on the back while playing with some guys on a group ride. I since realized how close that likely was to going down. I know she would never have gotten on again had I crashed. Moral: confidence is good. Overconfidence is an accident waiting to happen.
Did that once on my old Honda Shadow on a right turn . . . The bottom of the exhaust pipe does not have a lot of traction . . .
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I didn't start riding until I was 45. I'm enough of a klutz that I knew there was no way I should ride without taking the Basic Rider Course. Now, after 3 bike-less years and having just gotten a new V-Strom, I'm signing up for a "refresher" course. Whether it's motorcycles or any other part of my life, I don't ever plan on not learning new things.
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I took the basic MSF course here with my wife in 2004 (I think, maybe 05) and it was really helpful. I had ridden for years but without the endorsement on my license. My wife had never sat on a bike by herself before the class. One classroom session, one full day of course instruction, then a half day with a road test at the end.

At the time I had a KLR650 and an XT225 which my wife would come to ride after passing the course. She started the class as one of five ladies and was the only one to pass. A couple of guys dropped out too.

Heve wrecked a few times but not serious. Mostly because I was young and dumb. Not so young anymore and could still learn a few things. The MSF course is beneficial no matter what vehicle you operate. Highly recommended! Been wanting to take the Lee Parks Total Control Advanced Riding Class but haven't gotten to yet.
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I have been playing with Motorcycles since 1950 I was a long time desert rider. Started riding sport bikes in the early eighties, I signed up for the Keith Code superbike class in the late eighties and again in the early nineties level 4 on both times. The Street Master program a little later. Mans got to know his and the Motorcycle limitations. One of my Grand sons started riding about 5 yrs. ago he rode behind me for a month, I paid his entry fee for the Street Master program money well spent. This last Summer my Son and Grandson and I went on a 3000 mi. trip
Great Memories...For a 82 year old Rider..
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A track day, with race-track lessons, was an eye-opening experience for me.
Yep, we did a track day after one of the training courses, as safe a way as you can get to push the limits. I rode a 125 so got left behind on the straights but had just the best fun catching everyone through the twisties. Recommended.
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I took the MSF course a while back after riding safely and rapidly for ten years. I went in with an open mind, learned a lot, and corrected some bad habits. I also set what the instructors claimed was the World Record speed through the lane change test, pushing the utmost limits of the frame, wheels, and tires on those crappy little 125cc Suzukis they used to use.

The quote was: "That was hilarious, and well done. Please don't do it again."



I've also taken the Lee Parks Total Control Riding course, along with the refresher practice day. It made a huge improvement in my riding, and made me a much safer rider.

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Basic rider's course is very useful. However there is no substitute for miles logged. What I am curious though, has anyone significantly benefited from advanced rider course? I am sure it helps in some way, but for a rider that is not taking much of sharp cornering to begin with.. is there a benefit greater lets say than 10K real life miles or so?
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