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post #1 of 16 Old 08-12-2017, 04:43 PM Thread Starter
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Problem Shifting 1st t 2nd

Not sure if this is operator error or a mechanical issue, but, shifting from 1st to 2nd it sometimes won't go into gear, or it's more forcing into 2nd than a smooth transition. Sometimes it works flawlessly however. I've never had this while shifting into any other gear, or while down shifting

When this happens, after shifting from first to second and it doesn't engage, I am now in neutral but moving at 15 mph(just guessing) So if I now attempt to engage second gear, if I ease off the throttle, the gears sound like they are grinding in, if I engage the throttle it seems smoother. I will sometimes slow enough to go back into first

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post #2 of 16 Old 08-12-2017, 06:54 PM
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May simply be that the linkage needs a little adjustment for your boots. The throw from 1st to 2nd is longer than the others.

While you look at it make sure all is lubricated and moves feely, including the pivot.
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I'm with Blaustrom if you have never greased the gear leaver or the linkage points it is time you did.

Also when people have trouble changing gears they often start to second guess themselves and prepare for the gear change early and lift the pedal a little before they do the change this can cause problems.

Ensure the gear leaver is at the zero position (in the middle) before you attempt the change.

Don't allow your boot or the "stiff leaver" stop it from returning to the zero position & see how that works for you.

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....and check that your clutch is correctly adjusted. There is a how to on this site.

Not withstanding all of the above 1st to 2nd is the most missed gear change because of neutral being between them and you need to be a tad more positive with that shift.

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On my 2002 DL1000 I find the shift from 2 to 1 is much easier if the bike is still rolling just a bit. If I've already come to a complete stop and need to shift from 2 to 1, it requires a bit more effort.
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That's a basic for any constant mesh sequential gearbox as almost all motorcycles are. Keep the gear selected appropriate to the speed of travel. Do not stop in any gear but first or neutral. Otherwise, it takes some rocking the bike or easing the clutch to the friction point the get enough motion in the gears to change ratios.

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Thanks for the advice,

Is pre-loading the shifter advised? Make it easier?

Also, if I should find myself in neutral instead of second, when it doesn't engage,what's the best way to get it back into 2nd gear? It feels like I'm grinding gears if I try getting into2nd at this time.
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No. Preloading the shifter might cause an unwanted clutchless shift.
Easing off the throttle to take the strain off the gear cluster will help. Most learn to automatically ease off the throttle as they pull the clutch and move the shifter in one motion.
And I would repeat that 1st to 2nd is the most comonly missed shift and requires a little more positive shifting by the rider to get right every time.
A dragging clutch will also make shifting in the lower gears and finding neutral more difficult.

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