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I am reaching a rider danger zone - 2 years in...

Supposedly this is when lots of riders relax and start to ride above their head.

Today I was sort of reminded of the danger of riding when I was trying to merge to the left on a three lane highway and a guy in a car in the other lane refused to let me over. I needed to get over to make my turn all the way to the left.

Well, the guy kept speeding up so I just put my arm out to let him know I was going and went for it, well, the guy rode my ass in anger until I continued into the next lane.

Lesson learned. Lots of people do not care. They will kill you and ponder it later. Me making a move like that in a car is one thing, on a bike is a completely different story. I take responsibility and next time, I will just go down the highway and turn around. Just not worth it.
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Yah, know, when I know I'm going to make a lane change or major direction change, I move over a mile or so before the event.
If you are making last minute changes due to convenience, I have no sympathy.
Ride your own ride...carefully.
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Yup,

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Some cagers are ragers, some are just plain dangerous! Agree it is best to avoid the type-A holes whenever possible.
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Yah, know, when I know I'm going to make a lane change or major direction change, I move over a mile or so before the event.
If you are making last minute changes due to convenience, I have no sympathy.
Ride your own ride...carefully.
I am not disagreeing with you, but I will say it was a quick change from turning onto the highway to having to to turn left on the other side.
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Some cagers suck the bag everyday. I try to not give them a reason to exhibit the quality.
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There are old pilots, and bold pilots - but there are not many old, bold pilots.
Self preservation and not convenience should be your first priority.
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Supposedly this is when lots of riders relax and start to ride above their head.

Today I was sort of reminded of the danger of riding when I was trying to merge to the left on a three lane highway and a guy in a car in the other lane refused to let me over. I needed to get over to make my turn all the way to the left.

Well, the guy kept speeding up so I just put my arm out to let him know I was going and went for it, well, the guy rode my ass in anger until I continued into the next lane.

Lesson learned. Lots of people do not care. They will kill you and ponder it later. Me making a move like that in a car is one thing, on a bike is a completely different story. I take responsibility and next time, I will just go down the highway and turn around. Just not worth it.
Lack of planning & observation caused you to attempt a move that should not have been done. We have all done it and it is a good thing that you recognized your mistake. Next ride, concentrate on studying the traffic flow/pattern around you during your normal scan for threats. Note things like cars following too closely(common) and others that are leaving a larger safety margin. When they are stacked up like nascar drivers drafting at Daytona I either slow or speed up and work my way away from them. Watch for the guy in a big hurry coming up behind you and get out of his way. If you know you have to exit, advanced planning and execution is needed so that you don't disrupt the stream of traffic.
Seamlessly working around and through traffic takes a bit of energy, but it's really a nice challenge to see how smooth you can actually do it. I also like to watch other riders to pick out their errors, or marvel at how well they work with the traffic around them. It's usually the former, but the latter are a marvel and sometimes I learn something new.
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Lack of planning & observation caused you to attempt a move that should not have been done. We have all done it and it is a good thing that you recognized your mistake. Next ride, concentrate on studying the traffic flow/pattern around you during your normal scan for threats. Note things like cars following too closely(common) and others that are leaving a larger safety margin. When they are stacked up like nascar drivers drafting at Daytona I either slow or speed up and work my way away from them. Watch for the guy in a big hurry coming up behind you and get out of his way. If you know you have to exit, advanced planning and execution is needed so that you don't disrupt the stream of traffic.
Seamlessly working around and through traffic takes a bit of energy, but it's really a nice challenge to see how smooth you can actually do it. I also like to watch other riders to pick out their errors, or marvel at how well they work with the traffic around them. It's usually the former, but the latter are a marvel and sometimes I learn something new.
Very well said. It was simple stupidity on my part. I think I was riding like I was in a car. Too relaxed.

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There is no real end to the learning we all have to do is there. I felt I was an expert, or at least competent after 6 months, but realized after 2 years that was not true.

These days I am impressed that I can put the bike away for 4 months and when I get back on it only takes a couple of rides to feel back to where I was. It used to take a lot longer.

Up here I find most people help bikers when they can, but there are always the idiots, maybe they just lost their job, or divorced, or something else is making them miserable and they have no tolerance for bikers. Stay clear of those people when you spot them, pull over, slow down, whatever you need to do to get clear of them.
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