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post #1 of 22 Old 06-07-2016, 10:48 PM Thread Starter
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what tips would you give your passenger riding on your bike for the first time. Also whats the hardest part of riding someone on your bike
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post #2 of 22 Old 06-07-2016, 11:05 PM
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what tips would you give your passenger riding on your bike for the first time. Also whats the hardest part of riding someone on your bike
Tips for passenger:

1. Pay attention to the road (not very likely, since they can't see over your head).

2. Pay attention to you (best accomplished by them holding onto your sides...NOT around your stomach)

3. Relax and don't lean. I know that may sound wrong on the surface, but it's pretty important that they don't lean before you do. By holding onto your waist, your passenger can match your movement by feel. If your passenger anticipates and moves first it can really mess up your line.

4. When slowing down, your passenger should squeeze her legs against your hips and press her hands into the small of your back. The higher she presses, the worse it is (see below).

Tips for you:

1. Factor in a significantly increased braking distance. Your passenger will likely be looking around at the scenery instead of the road (probably won't be able to see the road anyway). This means she won't be prepared for slow downs and stops, and she'll end up sliding forward on the pillion. This will press you into the tank and force you over the bars. This will make it feel like you're "going over," which will make you let up on the brakes and possibly overshoot your line. The higher on your back she presses, the more pronounced this is.

2. Communicate with your passenger whenever you can if she's doing something wrong. Something as simple as her sliding her butt forward to get more comfortable can have a major negative impact on your riding position and maneuverability.

3. Be patient. Even if she's looking around enjoying herself, eventually she'll learn to follow your movements and lean with you. Don't be hard on her, and just mind your pace until she adjusts.

4. Factor in the extra weight when accelerating and passing. A passenger won't affect you much down low, but at freeway speed at higher RPM's, a passenger will hinder the acceleration you're used to.

I'm sure others will chime in, but for me, those were the key points. Everything else seemed to fall into place once those bases were covered.

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Pin baller nailed a lot of it. A few things that I added to help my wife the first few times.
1) I secured a small duffle or roll on the back so she wouldn't feel like she would slide off the back. Nothing big and bulky. Just a piece of mind
2) for the first couple of rides, if I was going to do something out of the ordinary, I tapped her leg. She knew something was going to change.
For you:
1) you are going to clack helmets. Be ready for it.
2) take it easy for a couple of rides. They will pick it up. My riding style is completely different with her on with me.
3) she squeezes my hips when I start to go too fast in the turns for her. Find a signal that works for you. If they are scared they won't ride with you.
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Have their torso match yours & when turning left have them look over left shoulder and vice versa.
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Something i found that helps my lady feel safe and allows her to relax without feeling unsecure and keeps her from making me uncomfortable is the oxford ridergrips.
The thing is a belt that has a pair of vertical handles on it and straps around your waist/hips. The handles have some slack in them, so it seems to reduce the felt impact of her tugging (i don't feel it at all) and she's more comfortable because there's a good solid handhold that isn't going anywhere.

Also, +1 for she squeezes with her knees on stops. You squeeze the tank with your knees, she squeezes your hips with her knees, and your family jewels will thank you, especially if you still have a stock seat.
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If "you" are a new rider, I am going to say no 2 up riding until you have a good year under your belt.

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If "you" are a new rider, I am going to say no 2 up riding until you have a good year under your belt.
Or take them on a smaller bike to start... The v-strom being top heavy is just too easy to dump, especially with an unsure nervous and/or unbalance passenger....

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Or take them on a smaller bike to start... The v-strom being top heavy is just too easy to dump, especially with an unsure nervous and/or unbalance passenger....
I've never thought the Vstrom was particularly top heavy.

My first bike was a 1983 GS550L, and one of the major things about my '03 Vee is that despite it's weight, it FEELS less top heavy to me.

I assume comparatively this is due to the lower relative engine placement(center of mass), the higher seat (less available tilt angle between the legs when standing), and perhaps the more upright seating position. Just my opinion though. (Not that it's worth much. I've had my Motorcycle license for less than 8 months, and perhaps 80% of my riding has been 2 up cruising around town)

Having said that, I've given my SOs mother a ride 3 or 4 times, and it's my assessment that passenger skill/experience accounts for the lions share of making 2 up easy. I could barely tell her mother, who weighs nearly twice what the the lady friend does, was even on the bike most of the time.

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* No moving around or adjusting when the bike is stopped or moving slowly.
*I ask pillions to hold their hands higher than my waist...I've had pillions fall asleep and not known it until they start leaning (or the dreaded helmet clack). So if their hands are normally held higher, when the hands start to go lower I know something is wrong.
* Decide on hand signals for stops...different signals for different reasons to stop, and different levels of urgency..
* Insist they take some kind of tutorial on shoulder rubbing..

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* Insist they take some kind of tutorial on shoulder rubbing..
I'll second this as well.

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