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post #1 of 22 Old 06-06-2016, 10:46 PM Thread Starter
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Down hill riding question

Looking for input. On lose gravel or off tarmac riding. Going up hill or even on the straights I can always just add some more gas and get the bike to settle down. But when going down hills my bike seems to have a mind of its own even though I never went down it sure seems the bike gets "loose". At these times I have no interest in going faster and my back break just seems to cause more sliding.

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this problem occurs when riding fully loaded, I have never taken my bike off tarmac with out being fully loaded.

I never ran an enduro bike.

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Some is just practice, some suspension & tires, some technique and some (the heavy loaded bit) just trouble.

My advice would be put some knobby tires on the bike and spend a couple of weekends on dirt without the load, that should solve most of the problems. Better rear suspension also makes a big difference but mostly when it gets really nasty - like rocks or washboards.

It's not something I have real problems with, but I have tires with some dirt grip (K60's) and quite a bit of experience.

Most of the braking still needs to be up front, and once you master that sliding well forwards and putting more weight on the front helps. I'd suggest for practice though, straight flat gravel road to start and practice using the front brake, and most important practice releasing it and applying it again when you lock the front.

An ABS bike is way easier here because it takes most of the risk of a front end washout away.

It also helps to not let speed build too much in the first place, slow down before the crest of the hill etc. It's not an MX bike and personally I'm happy with just getting through (as opposed to getting through fast).

If you havn't crashed so far I'd say you are doing O.K. frankly. If I'm riding dirt I do my best to leave the heavy stuff behind somewhere because it's always a PITA.
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It is a 2012 so no ABS. If I pull the front lever I need get my weight forward? What does stop the front tire from sliding like the back?

Can you pull out of a front tire slide?

My tire of choice is k60's.

The reason it is loaded is this is not dirt bike so the only time I take it off tarmac is when I am on a trip. But practice is always what I tell others.

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It is a 2012 so no ABS. If I pull the front lever I need get my weight forward? What does stop the front tire from sliding like the back?

Can you pull out of a front tire slide?

My tire of choice is k60's.

The reason it is loaded is this is not dirt bike so the only time I take it off tarmac is when I am on a trip. But practice is always what I tell others.

2012 is an ABS bike.

Maybe that's part of the problem your activating the ABS without realizing it. In the dirt you'll loose breaking power and take longer to stop.

Leave the bike in a lower gear than normal and let engine braking keep the momentum from building to fast. Be as vertical as possible when braking. On steep down hills the rear brake will be even less effective than normal!

With the ABS on I don't know if it's possible to brake slide the rear to turn in the dirt. I might have to experiment!

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I would guess you have the stock front tire - My vstrom is also a bit squirrely on loose gravelly dirt road riding. I did add a fork brace, and run semi knobs (fullbore m40/41's), and it's much better behaved - it is a dream on hardpack. But, the Vstrom is a big heavy bike that provides very little feedback as to what's under the front tire when traction gets gravelly. It's just a characteristic of the bike you'll have to come to terms with. That said, if you think your Vstrom has a mind of it's own, wait til you ride it in sand!!!!!

When in doubt, gas it..........seems to work even when you're white knuckling it!
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I would guess you have the stock front tire - My vstrom is also a bit squirrely on loose gravelly dirt road riding. I did add a fork brace, and run semi knobs (fullbore m40/41's), and it's much better behaved - it is a dream on hardpack. But, the Vstrom is a big heavy bike that provides very little feedback as to what's under the front tire when traction gets gravelly. It's just a characteristic of the bike you'll have to come to terms with. That said, if you think your Vstrom has a mind of it's own, wait til you ride it in sand!!!!!

When in doubt, gas it..........seems to work even when you're white knuckling it!

Yea downhill off-road fully loaded V-Strom gas it, that will end well
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2012 is an ABS bike.

Maybe that's part of the problem your activating the ABS without realizing it. In the dirt you'll loose breaking power and take longer to stop.

Leave the bike in a lower gear than normal and let engine braking keep the momentum from building to fast. Be as vertical as possible when braking. On steep down hills the rear brake will be even less effective than normal!

With the ABS on I don't know if it's possible to brake slide the rear to turn in the dirt. I might have to experiment!
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You're taking a fully loaded Vstrom off road on a loose down hill and you're wondering what's wrong?
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