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post #1 of 37 Old 04-29-2015, 10:06 AM Thread Starter
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Question "Wobbly" take-offs


Although I can just flat foot my 650 (I have no wish to lower the bike or get a lower seat), when I come to a stop, most often, I put my left foot (only) down. On a windy day, I'll lean the bike a bit more into my left leg ...

Especially if I have to lean the bike more, when I take off (and, unless I'm in a hurry, I prefer a slow, controlled take-off), the bike tends to "wobble" a wee bit before I "get moving". This doesn't happen every (or even most of the) time. I should also add that, it's actually pretty minor and, IMO, not an issue of safety at all.

I've been riding for less than a year, and have only put on about 7,000 km total (about 4,300 miles) on the two bikes I've ridden. So my question is:
Is this simply a matter of my inexperience and lack of skill,
or the normal result of riding a tall(er) bike?
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Both, actually, but with more experience, the second can be mitigated. One thing you might try is keeping that down foot (I prefer the right foot down, allows me to shift in and out of neutral) as far forward as possible. This allows you to keep it down as long as possible during takeoff, making the transition to wheels happen at a faster speed.

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Standard protocol is left foot down, right foot on rear brake. Aside from throttle and brake control, most students I've taught that tended to wobble on take off were looking down at the controls or directly in front of the bike. Keep your focus up and forward and practice take offs in and empty parking lot.
If you stall out on a wobbly take off it's likely you and the bike will go down

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Standard protocol is left foot down, right foot on rear brake. Aside from throttle and brake control, most students I've taught that tended to wobble on take off were looking down at the controls or directly in front of the bike. Keep your focus up and forward and practice take offs in and empty parking lot.
If you stall out on a wobbly take off it's likely you and the bike will go down

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Also when sitting you tend to relax so when you take off you tend to grab the bars. If you grab one side more than the other it points you off line for a bit = wobble.

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Thanks for the input so far.


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Standard protocol is left foot down, right foot on rear brake. Aside from throttle and brake control, most students I've taught that tended to wobble on take off were looking down at the controls or directly in front of the bike. Keep your focus up and forward and practice take offs in and empty parking lot.
If you stall out on a wobbly take off it's likely you and the bike will go down
Yep ... left foot down, right foot on rear brake, eyes forward. It's been quite some time since I've stalled, and I have yet to drop a bike.

I don't recall having this "issue" on any of the tiny bikes they had during the safety course I took. More recently, I didn't experience this "wobble" when I tried a friend's 750 (Honda) cruiser, nor when I tried my son's BMW (F800R); both took off straight as an arrow, every time.

It's not a big deal (I'm filing it under "skills acquisition"), but I'll keep working on it.
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locomotion is your friend. Give er a bit more throttle to get you going faster and this will soon disappear. Takes a bit of practice and time on a heavyish bike. Parking lot practice starts and ,better yet, stops will go along way to improve this and increase your confidence.
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locomotion is your friend. Give er a bit more throttle to get you going faster and this will soon disappear. Takes a bit of practice and time on a heavyish bike. Parking lot practice starts and ,better yet, stops will go along way to improve this and increase your confidence.
Thanks, Spud. You're right. Faster take-offs tend to improve/ eliminate this.
And maybe it's just me, but I'd like to master pulling away slowly.
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In your first post you said that you wobble before moving. It almost sounds like you are doing something (shifting position, putting pressure on the bars, etc) before you start moving. While stopped I only have my left foot down and as soon as the clutch starts slipping my foot is back on the peg. You should only need minimal clutch slippage before moving and very little steering input is required to maintain balance.

You don't say what year your bike is. I don't know if you bought it new or if it is used and could have been modified. You should double check things like tire pressure, alignment, fork bearings, etc. The tire profile can also influence the slow speed behavior. Some tires fall into turns easier. The easier the bike turns the more any input at the handle bars will upset it. If your bike has the forks pushed up in the triple clamps to lower the front that will make the bike more wobbly at slow speeds.

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In your first post you said that you wobble before moving.
Sorry for the confusion. What I wrote was:
the bike tends to "wobble" a wee bit before I "get moving".
By "get moving", I meant getting up to speed. The bike doesn't wobble while stationary.



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You don't say what year your bike is. You should double check things like tire pressure, alignment, fork bearings, etc. The tire profile can also influence the slow speed behavior. Some tires fall into turns easier.
2013 bought new late last season. Bike is in perfect condition. Tire pressure is checked regularly (especially now, when the air temperatures vary so much, day to day).
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Don't know if it will help you but you might practice what I do-

Usually when I stop at a stop sign- if there is no traffic to wait on- I come to a full stop- then ride off without ever putting my feet down at all!
Practice doing that increasing the amount of time you can stay "feet up" and it might improve your take-off wobbliness.

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