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post #1 of 13 Old 05-16-2014, 09:36 PM Thread Starter
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Question Is there any way to do this "right"?

Looking at this article, Motorcyclist drowns after falling off log into Voight Creek, I wonder if there is a known effective way to perform this maneuver and usually live.
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Build a better bridge. Maybe something with safety rails.

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post #3 of 13 Old 05-16-2014, 10:31 PM
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Out of the gene pool...

He was riding his motorcycle, over a log, 20 FEET above the creek- thats TWO STORIES! If youre gonna pull stunts like that on a bike, eventually it will catch up with you (and I have the scars to prove it!)!
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If you didn't get knocked out, and you didn't panic, and you had the sense to take a breath before hitting the water, you might be able to calmly unbuckle your boots, pull them off, and swim up. You have a few minutes before you run out of air, but most likely you would not think to take a breath, you would sink to the bottom immediately, and in a panic you would inhale water and drown. If you fell in unconscious then all bets are off. The only prevention is to not do stupid things like that.

It must have taken too long for his friends to pull him out and then likely they didn't know how to perform CPR properly.

The ABCs of CPR are Airway, Breathing, and Circulation. This acronym is used to help you remember the steps to take when performing CPR.

Airway

If a person has collapsed, determine if the person is unconscious. Gently prod the victim and shout, ďAre you okay?Ē If there is no response, shout for help. Call 911 or your local emergency number.
If the person is not lying flat on his or her back, roll him or her over, moving the entire body at one time.
Open the personís airway. Lift up the chin gently with one hand while pushing down on the forehead with the other to tilt the head back. (Do not try to open the airway using a jaw thrust for injured victims. Be sure to employ this head tilt-chin lift for all victims, even if the person is injured.)
If the person may have suffered a neck injury, in a diving or automobile accident, for example, open the airway using the chin-lift without tilting the head back. If the airway remains blocked, tilt the head slowly and gently until the airway is open.
Once the airway is open, check to see if the person is breathing.
Take five to 10 seconds (no more than 10 seconds) to verify normal breathing in an unconscious adult, or for the existence or absence of breathing in an infant or child who is not responding.
If opening the airway does not cause the person to begin to breathe, it is advised that you begin providing rescue breathing (or, minimally, begin providing chest compressions).

Breathing (Rescue Breathing)

Pinch the personís nose shut using your thumb and forefinger. Keep the heel of your hand on the personís forehead to maintain the head tilt. Your other hand should remain under the personís chin, lifting up.

Inhale normally (not deeply) before giving a rescue breath to a victim.
Immediately give two full breaths while maintaining an air-tight seal with your mouth on the personís mouth. Each breath should be one second in duration and should make the victimís chest rise. (If the chest does not rise after the first breath is delivered, perform the head tilt-chin lift a second time before administering the second breath.) Avoid giving too many breaths or breaths that are too large or forceful.

Circulation (Chest Compressions)

After giving two full breaths, immediately begin chest compressions (and cycles of compressions and rescue breaths). Do not take the time to locate the personís pulse to check for signs of blood circulation.

Kneel at the personís side, near his or her chest.
With the middle and forefingers of the hand nearest the legs, locate the notch where the bottom rims of the rib cage meet in the middle of the chest.
Place the heel of the hand on the breastbone (sternum) next to the notch, which is located in the center of the chest, between the nipples. Place your other hand on top of the one that is in position. Be sure to keep your fingers up off the chest wall. You may find it easier to do this if you interlock your fingers.
Bring your shoulders directly over the personís sternum. Press downward, keeping your arms straight. Push hard and fast. For an adult, depress the sternum about a third to a half the depth of the chest. Then, relax pressure on the sternum completely. Do not remove your hands from the personís sternum, but do allow the chest to return to its normal position between compressions. Relaxation and compression should be of equal duration. Avoid interruptions in chest compressions (to prevent stoppage of blood flow).
Use 30 chest compressions to every two breaths (or about five cycles of 30:2 compressions and ventilations every two minutes) for all victims (excluding newborns). You must compress at the rate of about 100 times per minute.
Continue CPR until advanced life support is available.
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From checking the map this happened not more than 10 miles from my house. Sad that his friends couldn't help him.

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CPR's ABCs has been updated to CAB, as chest compressions should clear the airway, don't waste time. Breathing can push stuff in.

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post #10 of 13 Old 05-24-2015, 07:22 AM
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Car has been updated to CAB, as chest compressions should clear the airway, don't waste time. Breathing can push stuff in.
YUP...just got re-certified. My company requires it. Everybody should know how to do it. Instructor always tells us stats show, it will be a friend or family member you save.

30 compressions, pause a few seconds and repeat. No airway now and don't bother with pulse. Quit when victim breathes again or EMS shows up.

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