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post #1 of 22 Old 11-13-2013, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
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Thumbs up First time down on the Glee...

I rode out today to drop some corn where I will be hunting in a couple weeks. Knowing the road conditions would be questionable I went anyway, always up for a challenge. 40 F mostly tarmac up to the sand road I turn on, from there only 3 miles. First part of the sand road was light snow and ice, no problem. Knew I could ride through that. Some soft sand spots along the way but just stood on the pegs and followed the bikes lead. Where I turned at the end onto a T is where I went down. Noted deep sand (car tire ruts up to 2 inches) through so I knew there would be trouble. In my mind the rule is displace my weight back and float the front by powering through.
Not on this bike.
The front tire just starts plowing. I was able to keep it up through part of it, grabbed second, then the sand got deeper and started loosing the front. Went down slow on the left side of bike. Luckily no damage (thanks to the crash bar/highway peg and rear pannier). Lifted easily with my back against the bike in a squat position. Finished out going down a sandy ATV trail, slowly with my feet keeping the bike up. Didn't realize how difficult the deep sand was going to be. I'm used to lightweight dirt bikes that you can just lean back on the pegs, float the front end and power through.
Looking for recommendations on how to avoid losing the bike in sand. I have had no problem driving through semi compressed sand but this stuff was ridiculous. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I plan to ride through this again so I'm not wanting to avoid such conditions, just want to work out the best way to manage the bike. Thanks. :mrgreen:

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Dirt bikes(M/X) are my background as well so I am quite familiar with sand riding. With this heavy bike and poor suspension, about all that is left is to put dirt oriented tires on and it ride it like you described(standing and letting the bike move). Once the front begins to plow, you are at the whim of Lady Luck. Either it continues to plow and you low-side, or it suddenly grabs and you might save it....or high-side if your speed is high. Sand and the Wee is like oil and water. They don't mix well. You can do everything perfectly, yet the combo of sand and this heavy bike will bite you.

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Steering damper and fork brace helped a lot with the bike going where I wanted it to go.

Loose coarse sand, from 20kph feet down to 90kph yawning.

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Congratulations or my sympathys on the bike drop as needed. Hate to do that myself but it do happen.
Gotta ask a question about hunting practices...Dropping some corn where I'se gonna kill bambi? Isn't that like chumming fish? I thought that was illegal. Kinda like gathering the hairy lumps for a fish in the barrel shoot. Not that I really mind. fewer deer, safer roads. It just struck me as funny as described. Happy hunting and a toast to you when having a nice roast of your kill!
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I toast your future hunting success, sir!!

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Congratulations or my sympathys on the bike drop as needed. Hate to do that myself but it do happen.
Gotta ask a question about hunting practices...Dropping some corn where I'se gonna kill bambi? Isn't that like chumming fish? I thought that was illegal. Kinda like gathering the hairy lumps for a fish in the barrel shoot. Not that I really mind. fewer deer, safer roads. It just struck me as funny as described. Happy hunting and a toast to you when having a nice roast of your kill!
Funny you should ask. In the state of wisconsin it is legal to drop up to two gallons of corn up until days before the season opens. Another question could be is this practice very sporting? I guess its all in how you view the hunt. I mostly deer hunt for the meat harvest and don't find rifle hunting very sporting to begin with. I just got back into deer hunting last year and haven't hunted before that since separating from the army. I guess chasing down prey who can return fire made me lose the taste for it. Thought I would use the bike for the fun of riding. I assumed riding in the sand would be risky, plan to do it again. Just want to ride smarter.

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Dirt bikes(M/X) are my background as well so I am quite familiar with sand riding. With this heavy bike and poor suspension, about all that is left is to put dirt oriented tires on and it ride it like you described(standing and letting the bike move). Once the front begins to plow, you are at the whim of Lady Luck. Either it continues to plow and you low-side, or it suddenly grabs and you might save it....or high-side if your speed is high. Sand and the Wee is like oil and water. They don't mix well. You can do everything perfectly, yet the combo of sand and this heavy bike will bite you.
Not sure if I'm ready to switch to dirt tires. Think I would lose alot of the good road manners my current stock shoes provide. I will look into slightly more aggressive tread when the time comes to replace.

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A friend with Heidenaus on his 1200GS likes them in the dirt and the street. He's a aggressive rider too.
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A friend with Heidenaus on his 1200GS likes them in the dirt and the street. He's a aggressive rider too.
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A fellow Vstrom rider in BC swears by them...both on highway and off road - V-Strom Owners Club of Canada

Good luck hunting!...I butchered a 170 lb 6pt buck last week
Thank you guys Notacop and Millwright98 for the Heidenaus tire tip. I think I have seen these on Twisted Throttles website for the V-strom. I do like the tread design. There are a lot of riders on ADV who like them too.

Millwright98, congrats on you prize. I think a 6 point is about the right harvest size although 170 lbs is a sizeable animal. Enjoy the processing and cooking some taste tenderloin medallions.

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