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post #1 of 17 Old 09-14-2013, 12:17 AM Thread Starter
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A question regarding group ride etiquite

I haven't been on many group rides and the few I have I always just go with the flow and try to look out for everyone around me, but I had a conversation with a guy yesterday that raised some questions.

If the lead rider is going slower that you would like is it ok to pass them and take off on your own to the nominated destination via your own route without telling anyone before hand?
Is this better than being the guy riding "sweep" or "tail end charlie" deciding to bugger off on their own or worse? Is it the same as just peeling off from the group without notice because you want to travel a different route?

Are these things considered "ok", or "dick moves" and likely to make a guy unwelcome on future rides?

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post #2 of 17 Old 09-14-2013, 02:04 AM
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I'd say the latter, the person organising the ride needs to know where everyone is IMHO
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Group rides are very different than solo rides and require some compromises on the part of all riders. Many riders will be riding slower than they normally do because of the inherent nature of group rides. When you ride with a group, it's generally expected that you stay together, watch out for each other, and enjoy the group experience together. The key is communication. It's always a good idea to have a pre-ride discussion about the route, safety, and any issues like this. Let everyone know up front your intentions and talk about it. My opinion is that it's bad form to move ahead of the group or to break off without prior communication with the group or the ride leader.

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Having been on many group rides with many different styles of riders the best ones were where we had a choice. Knowing where we were going to meet as a group, many rides had 2 groups. We will call them fast and slow. Some would want to look and some would want to ride. I remember one such ride in the hill country of Texas. The fast group actually got to the designated place after the slow group. Mainly because the fast group rode one road both directions and passed the slow group going in the opposite direction. Many of us had ridden together several times before so we knew what to expect. Again, this was all predetermined before we started so there was no confusion. Most rides should have predetermined stops and if you feel you aren't enjoying the ride that would be a good time to make a change. Maybe others feel the same. Remember, there may be occasions where the opposite is true. In that instance Ride Your Own Ride!!! Do not try and keep up if you feel uncomfortable. That is one instance to peel off and let them go.
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All that follows is IMHO

It depends a bit on how big the group is and how well you know each other.

When our "Tight 5" or "Six Pack" rides it's pretty informal, we just keep a loose eye on each other because we know everyone's riding ability levels.
But when we are in a larger group with some riders we don't know well we do the following....

The slowest rider leads, if his pace annoys us we take turns to have one stay with him and the rest pull over for a couple of minutes for a yarn then begin riding again until we catch up.
We try not to put pressure on riders to ride beyond their capabilities.

Tail end Charlie should NEVER peel off from the group without advising the leader, he has an important role ensuring no one gets into grief without having some support following, if he has to leave for any reason the leader appoints another tail end Charlie.
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There are definite obligations to the group when you join a group ride.
That being said, if you want to peel off, that,s fine, but you must clearly advise the leader at next stop OR the sweep, AND gain acknowledgement that they clearly understand your intentions. Many a mile and much time has been spent in locating "lost" riders by the entire group. For all they know you speared off an embankment somewhere unseen, and no one wants to leave a mate behind.




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If I'm riding with say 6 or 8 mates, then it's pretty informal, and generally if there's a good bit of road then it's ok to take off, and meet up at the next intersection to regroup. If its up the highway, generally we stick together.
If its a large organised ride then generally it's a cruisier day and we follow the etiquette of a trip leader and a tail end Charlie, and marking corners so no one needs to stop the group.
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I've posed the question on a few forums and the answers have been pretty consistent with regard to informing the group if you want to take off and not overtaking the lead or dropping behind TEC on an organised cruise type ride, as well as things being open slather when it's just some mates and the route is well known.

The more I've talked to people and absorbed people's opinions on various forums the more the guy I referred to in my first post is looking like a selfish dick trying to cause trouble for the club by poisoning the opinions of new members. Clearly he doesn't know how to ride as part of a group and resents being asked to change his behaviour.

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If the lead rider is going slower that you would like is it ok to pass them and take off on your own to the nominated destination via your own route without telling anyone before hand?
yeah that ok. better than following slow leader. slow as per riding under the posted speed limit. usually our group leader rides 5mph over posted limit.
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yeah that ok. better than following slow leader. slow as per riding under the posted speed limit. usually our group leader rides 5mph over posted limit.
Consensus say no, that's a dick move. You take off like that without telling anyone, you're a dick. End of discussion.

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