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post #1 of 36 Old 05-05-2013, 01:19 AM Thread Starter
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slow speed turning

Maybe I'm just real new with DL650 but I've noticed the wheel wants to turn in sharply (both left or right turns) on a slow speed turn (like at intersection). On any other higher speed turn AOK. Any suggestions where to start looking. The previous owner had dropped it twice as I replaced the flush front turn signals with Tuff Lights, but forks do not look damaged. I put a forkbrace on it and no change.

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post #2 of 36 Old 05-05-2013, 02:44 AM
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Two things spring to mind. The first is easy and it is the front tyre pressure.

The second is that you are tense during the turn and are counter-steering which makes the bike feel like it is turning in too sharp, which makes you more tense.
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Breathe, relax, slip the clutch and drag the rear brake a bit. These bikes are top-heavy, so low speed maneuvers can be tricky. If you try to counter steer at these speeds the bike will drop into the turn fast. If that happens, add some throttle to stand it up.


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And look in the direction you are turning. Don't look at the ground.

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And look in the direction you are turning. Don't look at the ground.
And, do this by turning your head...not just your eyes. If your head isn't turning to face directly at the point you want to hit, you're not doing it correctly.

One other thing, which I learned in a Motorcycle Safety Course, weight the OUTside edge of your seat when you turn sharply at low speeds...it helps keep the bike more upright, which keeps you from feeling that it is going to tip over inward.
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The Dl's are actually a very nimble bike for slow speed manuvering. As previously stated, turning your head is a key factor but momentum is also important. Always look up and to the direction you want to go, never down. And of course leaning the bike factors in greatly. If your troubles persist I would suggest enroling in a class such as Ride Like A Pro in Texas https://www.ridelikeapro.com/locations/houston
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Weight to the outside of the turn on low speed turns keeps the rider more upright, not the bike.

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
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And, do this by turning your head...not just your eyes. If your head isn't turning to face directly at the point you want to hit, you're not doing it correctly.

One other thing, which I learned in a Motorcycle Safety Course, weight the OUTside edge of your seat when you turn sharply at low speeds...it helps keep the bike more upright, which keeps you from feeling that it is going to tip over inward.
You are correct in that weighting the outside of the bike aids in cornering however it is not to keep the bike upright as in perpendicular to the riding surface, it is to keep your center of mass over the bikes center of mass. The bike needs to lean, even in slower manuvering. Watch this motor officers head snap, body position changes and bike lean through his manuvers
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Remember this discussion is about low speed tight turns. Counterweighting, as the process of body weight to the outside of the turn is called, eats up ground clearance at higher speeds and is not good form.

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All the above about counterweighting, slipping the clutch, and dragging the rear brake are great suggestions.

When you're choosing where to look, for faster speed turns, I look where I want to be. That means I had to train myself not to look at the obstacles, but look just left or just right of the obstacle. For example, in the middle of a curve I see a pothole. If I focus on the pothole, I'm going to hit the pothole. If I focus to the left or right of the pothole, the bike will go to the left or right of the pothole and I will miss it.

For SLOW speed turns, you need to look PAST where you want to be. Essentially, if I'm making a right hand u-turn, I crank my head over and try to look BEHIND me while I'm turning. All the way through the turn. So at the end of the turn, I'm not looking straight, but still a little to the right of the line I want. And I keep that head angle. Cause naturally I want to look behind me and as I turn I want to see the line or curb and want to see how close I am to it. But you'll learn that if you keep your head cranked all the way, you WILL miss that curb by a good foot. Trust in the bike to have a good turn radius. Cause this bike is pretty damned nimble.

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