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post #1 of 21 Old 04-29-2013, 08:55 PM Thread Starter
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post #2 of 21 Old 04-29-2013, 09:02 PM
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Moto was an idiot. No brake, no turn, he actually straightened out of his turn and pointed straight at them.

Definitely target fixation.
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well. I think that's a trap that's easy to fall into...we see a video like this and think "that guy was a fkn idiot, good thing I'm way smarter!" I've seen stuff like this happen to some really good riders...which is why I thought it worth posting, I guess.

Something to consider/be aware of, I reckon.
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If you have read Keith Code's "Twist of the Wrist" you can see that rider exhibited all the "survival reactions" which don't actually help us "survive."

Survival Reactions
1. Roll-off the gas
2. Tighten on the bars
3. Narrowed field of view
4. Fixed attention
5. Steering in the direction of fixed attention
6. No steering (frozen) or ineffective steering
7. Braking errors (both over or under braking)

As I have mentioned previously, "Twist of the Wrist" is an excellent book as is the video. I learned a lot from both.
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well. I think that's a trap that's easy to fall into...we see a video like this and think "that guy was a fkn idiot, good thing I'm way smarter!" I've seen stuff like this happen to some really good riders...which is why I thought it worth posting, I guess.

Something to consider/be aware of, I reckon.
Exactly right, we're all WAY above that until we do it!

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Always good to have a reminder of the basics.

I remember fixating on something in the road, wondering what it was but at the same time thinking I should avoid it. I did, at the last second. Banana peel - THAT would've been embarrassing...& hilarious at the same time.
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Here is another instance of "Target Fixation". This rider actually steered directly into the Vette.

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If you have read Keith Code's "Twist of the Wrist" you can see that rider exhibited all the "survival reactions" which don't actually help us "survive."
And here are my recommendations to avoid triggering those "survival reactions" to to begin with: https://www.stromtrooper.com/riding-p...w-prevent.html




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well. I think that's a trap that's easy to fall into...we see a video like this and think "that guy was a fkn idiot, good thing I'm way smarter!" I've seen stuff like this happen to some really good riders...which is why I thought it worth posting, I guess.

Something to consider/be aware of, I reckon.
I did something like that once:

I brought my astonishly mediocre skillz hot into a downhill decreasing-radius right-hander, went wide, looked at debris I wanted to avoid in the opposite lane, forgot to stop looking at the debris, yada, yada, bent forks, bent rim, bent radiator, bent guardrail. I got to experience a lowside that became a highside.

Where the hell were you Killboy?

There is much about motorcycling that is counter-intuitive.

The smartest thing I did that morning was dress myself.

The first wrong thing I did was not downshifting. This began a sequence that could have been corrected by simply looking where I wanted to go and leaning in instead of looking where I didn't want to go. But no, I let myself get distracted, hit the brakes stood the bike up. I got to slide down the road on my back with the bike hot on my tail. Good times.

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Well everyone is stating the obvious

The thing that got me the most was the piss poor response to the downed cyclist who took the primary impact

This guy should have been kept on the ground and as immobile as possible, he should have been checked for obvious broken bones and other "at risk" injuries as well as being monitored for shock.

He should have been protected as much as possible from being hit again by other traffic, by placing a vehicle between him and approaching traffic, or whatever other means- such as people doing traffic control to divert traffic around the accident scene.

He was obviously the one who needed the most attention, the motorcyclist had ATGATT [full protective riding gear] and the second cyclist took less of the impact.

Yes everybody, we all need to learn not to "target fixate" [I'm guilty of doing it too]........

But PLEASE do a certified first aid course, preferably a "Level 2" or whatever your local equivalent is, there are also motorcyclist specific first aid courses available in many cases.

Not only can it help save the life of one of your riding buddies, it may also save your child/wife/parent/best mate, or maybe even someone you don't know that is loved by someone else who will be grateful to you for being capable of making a difference.

I'm Level 2 certified as a work requirement and my wife and I both did a motorcyclist specific certified course as well three years ago [time for her to do an update].

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