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post #51 of 57 Old 11-30-2019, 09:30 PM
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I have a pair of gerbings that are 18 years old, and over 50k miles, no wires, they plug into my jacket sleeves, jacket plugs in with 1 cord

I would not be so partial to battery powered garbage
Yup. That's what I use too. When they went out of business/sold, I bought a couple extra pairs. I think I'm good for life.

I also love their Cascade jacket and pants. I have two sets and both are pretty much worn out. The heated part is fine but the shells are pretty ragged. I keep mending and water sealing but I can only do that for so long. I will mourn them when they die for good. Maybe I'll just quit winter riding at that point. Anything else will be a step down and you can't get them anymore.

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Iíd like to ride up to December. After two bad experiences Iím beginning to think heated gloves are a farce.

Has anyone had heated gloves that last more then one season.

Iím partial to battery powered ones as I donít like wires running all over the place. If I have to go that route for reliability then I will.
Indeed!

I haven't yet finished reading through the 6 other pages of comments, so sorry if I'm re-beating a deceased horse. But, I have become fed up with heated gloves that don't last.

I am now on my third - and last - pair of Warm 'n' Safe gloves, the Men's Ultimate Touring to be exact. "Third" meaning that I bought a pair, they lasted 1 winter, were replaced under warranty, then the same thing happened the next winter, and now going into the 3rd winter, the 3rd pair has also partially failed (no thumb heat).

The gloves are about to go in the bin, because Warm 'n' Safe now claim they are "out of warranty." They had the gall to suggest I use their "trade up program" to get new ones. Right, because I can't wait to spend even more money on a product that doesn't last!

Speaking of the Warm 'n Safe warranty, can anyone decipher this mess? Quoted directly from their website:

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We build for longevity and durability. We have previous versions of our garments still full functional and in use after 20 years. We will repair or replace any problems with products within the first year. Defects in the wires are guaranteed for the life of the garment, but not breakage due to use. General wear and tear, damage by abuse or accidents are not covered.
1) No, you clearly don't, or I wouldn't be on my 3rd pair of gloves.

2) The highlighted part seems intended to let them off the hook whenever they feel like it. If they only want to offer a one-or two-year warranty, that's fine. Just say so. But that isn't a "lifetime" warranty in any meaningful sense, so they need to stop using that word.

Every one of my 3 pairs of Warm 'n' Safe gloves has failed without any visible sign of damage. They have never been crashed in, immersed, or in any way abused or misused. Each pair was used for no more than a few dozen hours. I've never yet owned the same pair more than a year, since they kept breaking.

For $170/pair, I should have been able to expect better durability.

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To be blunt, the only reason to run battery powered gloves is that you have NO access to 12v power. I tried battery socks once. Miserable failure.

If you need heated gloves, you need a heated jacket. You might not realize that, or believe that. But I will stand by that statement. A heated jacket makes plugging in heated gloves as simple as turning on your battery powered gloves.

I have had my Gerbings heated gloves for over 10 years. They still work fine. I will also add that heated gloves are good, but may not fully keep your hands toasty without heated grips. Short trips yes, but after several hours heated grips ( and heated seat ) really add to comfort.
Agreed and agreed. There is no more convenient way to use heated gloves, than plugging them into wires built into a heated jacket liner.

I got the heated jacket liner after the gloves, because I could just bundle up more to keep my core warm, where there's not that option for one's hands.

However my heated jacket liner is a Warm'n'Safe, and I haven't had good luck with their stuff lasting more than one winter. Guess we'll see how it goes.

I have never been interested in battery-powered heated gear. Too inconvenient, batteries can and will die at the worst possible time, still more crap I have to recharge or replace batteries in. There may be use cases for such gear, but being on a vehicle with a perfectly good 12V power supply is not one of them.

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I asked Warm 'n' Safe to explain how my gloves could be "out of warranty" when I have never had a pair last more than one winter. Unexpectedly, I got a reply.

They still don't understand the problem - they think I am trying to get a 3-year-old pair of gloves replaced. Ugh.

However, they want me to send the gloves in, and will then decide whether the thumb heat failed due to "normal wear and tear." If not, I get a new pair of gloves - the fourth overall.

This is fine. Regardless of the outcome, I will learn something useful.

I have no idea why the gloves keep failing. W'n'S seems to have a serious quality control problem, and I hope they can fix it. Gloves are fantastic - WHEN they work!

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Didn't I read here that Warm n Safe changed hands and is not making the same quality product that earned their reputation?

I have Powerlet glove liners. The first pair were good for a while, then started zapping my left thumb. They were replaced under warranty. The replacements have been fine for a few years now ... except when they get dripping wet they zap, but I think all gloves would when soaked.

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Didn't I read here that Warm n Safe changed hands and is not making the same quality product that earned their reputation?
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My last 3 pairs of Warm'n'Safes were made in Pakistan.

The current Men's Ultimate Touring gloves on their website look a little different. Perhaps they've found and corrected some deficiencies in the last year.

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