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post #1 of 22 Old 02-13-2018, 10:19 AM Thread Starter
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Question Route Info: Northern Quebec and St Lorence River Area, Your Help Please

To our friends in the frozen North; actually we are also frozen Your help is appreciated!

We are looking into going way north this summer (late July or early August). No gravel roads since one of the bikes is a heavy street bike.

Considering Quebec RT109/ James Bay Road. Is that worth going or just many miles of wilderness and not much to see? Black Flies, Mosquitos, ... what else? What gas tanks are allowed in Canada? I think I may need additional fuel for the James Bay Road.

Then connecting via RT113 and RT167 to the St Lawrence River. Good idea or not? Any not to be missed roads or sights?

Then how far east should we travel on RT138? Is it paved all the way to Pointe-Parent? Are there any accommodations in that area? Worth going that far and backtracking to catch the ferry south?

On the south side we want to go to Gaspe and then probably head back south-west to Maine and back home.

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I can only answer parts of this. I spent a lot of time in the far north of Ontario as a kid - yes, north of Muskoka! Gasp! - in and around Rouan-Noranda and Larder Lake. Yes, the bugs will be bad. I mean really bad. Honestly, you have never met mosquitos and blackflies anywhere near the density. And blackflies are the little bastards that take a small chunk of skin with them when they bite.

I've been perusing a site that I assume you have found about the James Bay Road region, and it's pretty interesting. Note that it cautions "The scenery is not spectacular. This is low, flat or gently undulating country. Don't expect the Rocky Mountains. The main natural attraction of this area is the remoteness and silence."

There are long runs without fuel - nearly 400km. I can do that on my Strom, but the road bike may struggle. Our gas cans are your gas cans - they're probably manufactured for a US company in China, shipped through California, then sent via rail or truck to Canadian retailers. So, Rotopax are just fine.

These are truly remote stretches of road you're talking about. You will see lots of trees. And rocks. And rocks and trees. You'll see wildlife - they talk about bears but my bigger concern in that area would be moose and caribou (reindeer). It's a beautiful part of the world, and is in the heart of the Canadian Shield. Then again, you can see that doing a loop of the great lakes, and get the great lakes in to boot - but you won't get the remoteness.

There are posts about the road over on ADV rider if you search.
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I found this post ...

https://www.stromtrooper.com/ride-rep...road-trip.html

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Thanks, good info. I had not seen that linked site but I really am just beginning to contemplate this route and the black fies are not very appealing.

I am not normally on ADV rider, need to take a look there.

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Very highly recommend looping the Gaspe Peninsula, Trying to hit 299 (Probably the best motorcycling road in QC) Going to Saugenuay by heading north from Quebec City on the 175. I haven't ridden the 155 but it's probably a nice route as well.

Other options are to head over to New Brunswick and take the Cabot Trail out to Meat Cove. I did all of these last year on an SV1000 with my friend on a Road Glide.

Show this to your road bike friend.

If you go north, no joke bring a bug net. They are cheap and absolutely worth it. Bug repellant is okay, but I just have the net with me all the time, throw it on as soon as I stop.

I think I am going to plan a similar trip from Montreal to James Bay this summer. I have done a northern Canada trip but only stayed north from BC to Winnipeg, I've never been further north within Quebec than the above mentions.
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Typically on a trip I carry two 5L plastic gas cans strapped to the top of my tail bag with bungees and have never had a problem, even when getting pulled over or crossing the border. Particularly in remote areas, no one cares.
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Truly, the best postcard and love letter any motorcyclist could give to la belle Province would be from a motorcycle retailer - FortNine. Consider Fortnine to be Canada's Revzilla, based out of Quebec. Also consider RyanF9 to be their sole spokesperson, their Lemmy and Spurgeon and whomever else rolled into one. He can really ride, and he made some AMAZING videos about motorcycle touring in Quebec - cities, and out in the hinterland.

Check them out, I'm sure that they will help you more than anything. The link below should bring you to the playlist:


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If that Guzzi video is representative of the trek, sounds like a friends description of going to Inuvik 500 miles of pissy little trees North and 500 miles of pissy little trees going back.
He was in big ol' motorhome with a much higher visual advantage to see wtf.
Really doesn't look all that appealing especially with the bugs, caribou, Mooses and bears. The mention of logging roadies adds another negatory image.
I've had those guys want around in the Calif Sierra mountains. Best to let them go and follow. They know the road.
Gotta admit traveling in the Northern region is not for weenies like me. I'll take my landing at Goose Bay Labrador for refueling back in 1968 as my Northern Adv.

Oh, the above video, Ah, to be young and really crazy again!
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The James Bay Road is worth doing once but there is not a lot of "scenery"...

The longest stretch is about 375 km without fuel - no problem with a Vstrom - but could be a problem for other bikes including my Burgman 650.
You can see the 5 Litre tank peeking out




Matagami to Radisson - The James Bay Road in June

Driving the James Bay Road

Lots of this



and you can make a meal of the bugs



You are reasonably north ....3 am in June



Now Saguenay and area is lovely and Parc Mauricie worth the ride on it's own. You have to be careful of traffic in Quebec on weekends anywhere north of Montreal....best avoided.

The loop up the TransCanada from the east to Rouen Noranda is lovely



but again mind your fuel.

Coming back down come on 101 in Quebec

Have fun.....I did.


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I guess the most scenic stuff in Canada is over in BC? Majestic mountains and things like that?
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