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post #1 of 8 Old 11-02-2013, 11:05 AM Thread Starter
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an odd claim re radiator cap

ProCycle is selling a higher pressure radiator cap, claiming greater efficiency. I call that B.S. Our radiators do not boil, nor does my car's cooling system boil. Because water does expand as it gets hotter, we do have a coolant overflow system in cars and motorcycles, but its for this solid volume expansion effect and not for boil-over.
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An increase in pressure is more likely to cause leaks and I see no benefit.

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ProCycle is selling a higher pressure radiator cap, claiming greater efficiency. I call that B.S. Our radiators do not boil, nor does my car's cooling system boil. Because water does expand as it gets hotter, we do have a coolant overflow system in cars and motorcycles, but its for this solid volume expansion effect and not for boil-over.
They go with the green valve stem caps.

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and then, of course, another great marketing ploy

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They go with the green valve stem caps.
and then, of course, another great marketing ploy was MONSTER speaker cables for audio - talk about snake oil - too bad none of the buyers (suckers) could do math or knew how thin the wire in the voice coil was
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Heavy speaker cables can be a good thing over a long run to prevent signal deterioration before reaching the speaker coil wires. The rest of the oxygen free, fancy braiding, silver content, double wiring hype is useless. Any wire of sufficient gauge for the length of run will do the job as well. The real crime is high priced cables for digital signals. The signals get through or they don't. If they don't, there will be an obvious problem not requiring and audio/videophile to discern. The Cable Game | PCWorld

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Actually there is something to the fine braid as well, but it only makes a difference at high frequencies.
At frequency rises current travels further and further towards the surface of the conductor, it's called "skin effect" and it reduces the effective CSA of the conductor. At very high KHz almost no current flows down the centre of the conductor. By making the conductors finer and using more of them you reduce the high frequency losses in a given cable size. It's a problem I've most often seen with variable frequency drives (16KHz and up switching frequency) and digital communications conductors.

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Speaker wire doesn't carry high enough frequencies to involve skin effect though. Skin effect is often referenced with TV coaxial cable where copper coated steel center wire is stronger for aerial runs while the signal is carried on the copper coating.

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I like using the heavy gauge fine-stranded speaker wire myself, but not for the reasons advertised. I like having enough wire for my fingers to manage and it being flexible enough to put where I want it.
Anything with conductors as thick as your finger will probably be moved from the stereo to the car or bike for high current applications.

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