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post #21 of 43 Old 05-18-2016, 11:06 PM
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All quite true! While some will "sit in dirt and eat canned food" that I think is more of the gritty adventure image. You MUST have food onsite. You MUST have showers onsite. You MUST have restrooms and I think you also must have some port-a-potties around if expecting big attendance. There are folks happy to camp out, and that can be good for getting to know folks. Having onsite rooms isn't absolutely required, but if you don't have that you probably don't have a proper meeting area.

For instance, if you don't have food onsite the event will become fragmented. Dinner especially is the best time of day for folks meeting and greeting and getting ready for a presentation ceremony or seminar.
Same with showers. No showers, no campers. Which means they are at hotels. Some will always do that, but if the majority are onsite the event has a certain camaraderie that will add a LOT.
The RMAR rallies have done well in this sense. Fri & sat night meals are included. Everyone eats on site. Camping with cabins keeps everyone together. Those who wander to hotels are not connected. Kegs of beer are key too.

Rallies have exploded in the last few years. Every summer weekend there are several all thru out the country. Lot of competition for limited free time off so those who left did not stop just went elsewhere. Go to ADV alone and see all your options.

Volunteers often do not enjoy the rally as much, they are working...but it happened in the past because you needed to create something as there were so few rallies. Now there are so many, volunteers are saying I'll just go there and have vs working on my vacation time. Charge a small amount and pay the volunteers.

I help market Cycle Worlds rallies. They are $$ and people pay. They rent out a whole hotel in Gunnison & pack it with events.

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post #22 of 43 Old 05-18-2016, 11:22 PM
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Buena Vista, was there for a Guzzi National. Nice place. So much great country coming and going.
A ride to Crunchy Butt, oops, Crested Butte, was a good side trip. Neat places to eat and see a bunch of dedicated bicyclists gathering.
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I need to rethread that hitch/axle before sending it to you. May take a little while.

I wonder if there is a Iron Horse Motorcycle Lodge like place in Colorado? The pace we stayed a couple of years ago was at the end of the million dollar road. A real life little western town right there at the campground. Two streets all up hill. I'll poke one of the guys who might remember.
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post #24 of 43 Old 05-19-2016, 06:23 PM
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Agreed Notacop, ya better have gear, motel plans or not. Surprising the unadvertized events that fill up places, reunions graduations etc. I have bug net, bag and food for the unforeseen. Slip back a power line or old trail and save your skin and Up to $200 for a room. A rally has gotta have lots of planning and it means $$$ like mentioned for the beemers.
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I know of a great campground in Sturgis, S.D. The Elkview campground. Rates are reasonable, hot showers etc. If anyone puts this together, it's a great place.

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We have a "formula" and lessons learned for rallies that works pretty well. Proven at the South Dakota, Colorado, and The Dalles Oregon among others. No need for fees of any kind (e.g., registration) or costs up front to the person hosting the rally. Basically, something like this....

A great location central to epic riding
A hotel with camping ability near by or in conjunction (a lodge with cabins works great too), a bar, a meeting room, a restaurant and the ability to order off the menu.
A Suzuki dealership willing to participate enthusiastically in the rally.
Lot's of visibility beforehand to attract the widest number of attendees.

We have a few negative lessons learned as well that can be passed on the the hosts. No need to discuss further here.

So a great rally does not require up front money on anyone's part (other than who ever gets the T-Shirts). There are a lot of "for profit" rallies across the country, but we don't have to do it that way.

This may be helpful.


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post #27 of 43 Old 05-21-2016, 05:23 PM
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"A Suzuki dealership willing to participate enthusiastically in the rally. "
A few of us had that luxury in Havasu, Az for a couple years. Our benevolent provider sold the biz and replacement guy wasn't up to it.
Dang! We had fun.
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If you want to attend a No Frills rally in the west here is one;

Most are camping, but there are hotels within a mile or so for under $100.
We're having a dinner on Saturday night, and riding every day.
What we don't have is t-shirts a lot of door prizes, beer kegs and strippers..... well ok, we won't have the first two...

I hosted the 08 Western Rally in Cedar City, Utah and yes, they are a lot of work, hence this No Frills route.

Come June 24th We will be sitting around a fire pit BSing the night away, C'mon and join us.

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post #29 of 43 Old 05-21-2016, 08:57 PM
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I'd vote for SD!

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post #30 of 43 Old 05-21-2016, 09:24 PM
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I would love to do Colorado and literally just got home at 2am last night from a business meeting in Boulder for the week. However, it is a 2100 mile 1-way trip to get there for me. That means I have to take a 2-week vacation for a weekend event, so that's not really practical for me. However, if I can coordinate it, I can fly to my place in Phoenix and then ride up... but that now adds in the cost of airfare and 2 days lost just traveling. Living way up in Massachusetts sucks sometimes... no... MOST times :-)

That said, the Midwest states really aren't that scenic... no offense. So the Rockies and Dakotas win on that score. How about central Canada? Great scenery and a 25% exchange rate right now :-)

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