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04-25-2019 07:15 PM
V-Strom Ry 2
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Originally Posted by Big B View Post
Yup same goes for my AD-1 britches as well........there is only "1" Gore-Tex, the rest are posers and only hope to be half as good.
In the high-performance outdoor wear business there are some other waterproof, breathable membranes that are even better than Gore-tex. They're also even more expensive. You're not likely to find them in any motorcycle gear. There are also several varieties of Gore-tex.
04-25-2019 06:24 PM
V-Strom Ry 2
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Originally Posted by Fynlcut View Post
Yep, they squeak. A shot of lube on the hinges will solve the issue for a month or so, depending on how much water I ride through.

I use Smatwool socks as well. Went to buy a couple pair at Dicks Sporting Good. They rang up $5.00 a pair, so I cleaned them out. Got 6 pair for less than I planned on paying for 2.
That might be another reason that I never notice my feet being hot (or cold for that matter) inside my Alpinestars Web Gore-Tex boots - for the last 7 or 8 years I've taken to exclusively wearing high-performance wool blend socks - Fox River, Wigwam, etc. Bought them for hiking, but they're now my go-to. The fact that my boots are Gore-tex probably doesn't hurt, either.
04-25-2019 06:03 PM
DesertBike I decided screw it, there's no such thing as "one boot to rule them all." And I'm allowed to have more than one pair of boots. I'll wear whatever's best for the expected conditions.

So I ordered a pair of the Forma Adventures. Mostly to try them on & get a general impression. No, they don't have as much ankle support as I originally wanted, but I wasn't super ready to drop $500 on the Sidi Adv 2's. Also, it seems like every single review emphasizes that the Adv 2 is just plain HOT. Due to not flowing much air.

Alpinestars Roam 2 Airs were on closeout, and I couldn't resist a pair for just under $100. These will be my "it's 95F out, commuting and not expecting rain" boot.
04-25-2019 11:13 AM
Big B
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It does depend, and there seems to be a substantial difference in airflow between actual Gore-Tex, vs. lower-priced alternatives.

Without writing a novel...two garments used something called "Rainguard" and were terrible, absolute sweatsuits for 6 months of the year. My Aerostich AD-1's have baked-in Gore-Tex and are super duper comfy, even in triple-digit heat.

This is why I think it's more complicated than simply "waterproof boots = too hot". It seems to depend greatly on the waterproofing used.
Yup same goes for my AD-1 britches as well........there is only "1" Gore-Tex, the rest are posers and only hope to be half as good.
04-24-2019 01:29 PM
DesertBike And the TCX Explorer EVO are CE 2 2 2 rated, nice.
04-24-2019 12:48 PM
eff
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Also what do you wear for "street" boots?

The most "offroad" I go is fairly well-maintained packed dirt or gravel-topped forest roads. So I'm leaning towards starting with a good pair of "street" boots since that's >90% of my riding. Then maybe adding more MX-ish boots if I feel it's warranted. If I did, they'd probably be the Crossfire 3 TA's.
I just bought a pair of TCX Explorer EVO Gore-Tex Boots for commuting. Can't go wrong for $200 and Gore-Tex. Now, I have not received them yet but I think they fit the bill perfectly.

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...gore-tex-boots
04-24-2019 11:48 AM
DesertBike
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Originally Posted by Squish View Post
I don't like my crossfire TA for the street they are a big heavy boot. But for off road they are awesome.
Also what do you wear for "street" boots?

The most "offroad" I go is fairly well-maintained packed dirt or gravel-topped forest roads. So I'm leaning towards starting with a good pair of "street" boots since that's >90% of my riding. Then maybe adding more MX-ish boots if I feel it's warranted. If I did, they'd probably be the Crossfire 3 TA's.
04-23-2019 09:47 PM
Rolex I discovered by riding without shoes that on my V2 I can keep my feet cooler by placing my feet about 2" out from the motor with the right side being a lot hotter than the left.


Of course when it is cold I do the opposite.
04-23-2019 12:35 PM
DesertBike
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Originally Posted by Big B View Post
My Darien light jacket is bonded Gore-Tex and flows incredible amounts of air and breathability, matter of fact when it's cool/cold outside I have to really layer up.
It does depend, and there seems to be a substantial difference in airflow between actual Gore-Tex, vs. lower-priced alternatives.

Without writing a novel...two garments used something called "Rainguard" and were terrible, absolute sweatsuits for 6 months of the year. My Aerostich AD-1's have baked-in Gore-Tex and are super duper comfy, even in triple-digit heat.

This is why I think it's more complicated than simply "waterproof boots = too hot". It seems to depend greatly on the waterproofing used.
04-23-2019 12:29 PM
Rolex I have the Toucan's and was told that all Gore-Tex boots will be hot, I did not find that to be the case and find the Toucan's to be very comfortable and no hotter than my MX & my Forma boots.


My original Toucan's leaked water into the right boot, I returned them to the place of purchase, they told me they would need to send them back to the manufacturer for assessment, when I explained I had nothing to gain by complaining and I did not want a refund, just a replacement pair of boots they made a phone call and handed over a new pair there and then, the replacement boots have been perfect in everyway.
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