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01-22-2019 03:21 PM
V-Tom
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Originally Posted by Macdoc View Post
any more dodges
Hey I admit my errors. Unlike some people in the past when called out on things they just ignore and carry on.

..Tom
01-22-2019 03:09 PM
Big B
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Originally Posted by Macdoc View Post
the "debate" ....entirely in your imagination....the world has moved on ...try it.

••••

Burgman 650 would be a good EV tho and maybe even a hybrid. Good platform for it but the eCVT in the Burgman is useless so might as well start from scratch.

Ah you are so right.....all the REAL EXPERTS from the world over on the subject are in full agreement right? I agree with some EV scooters like the Burgman being an excellent choice for urban travel and or running errands, that seems to make more sense at the moment over actual EV motorcycles.
01-22-2019 02:11 PM
Macdoc
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70% of all oil consumed in the U.S. is used for transportation. “The U.S. transportation sector consumes about 220 billion gallons of liquid hydrocarbon fuel per year. Energy use in the transportation sector is primarily for passenger travel and freight movements.
any more dodges
01-22-2019 01:30 PM
V-Tom
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Originally Posted by V-Tom View Post
Yes: "For other purposes" is what I meant to enter.

I was wrong, or at least it looks that way.

It appears that I either mis-remembered the article or misread it. When I do a quick google search it shows that way over half of oil is used for transportation and only a small part is used for Plastic production.

..Tom
I continued searching and came across this:

In: How electric vehicles could take a bite out of the oil market

is the following:

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...Besides, passenger vehicles consume only about 26 percent of the oil used worldwide.
...
So that might have been part of my misunderstanding.

..Tom
01-22-2019 01:24 PM
V-Tom
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Originally Posted by HokiesRWee View Post
I think this is what you intended to say (minor adjustments within brackets are mine).

Assuming so, I think this might be correct, or somewhat correct. I can't cite the source, but I think I heard or ready, recently, that fuel (gasoline, diesel) is becoming something of a byproduct of oil use for other uses. That statement caught my attention at the time.

In the US, and if here, probably in lots of other parts of the world, vehicles are much more efficient than they were. We own one car that gets ~30 MPG on trips. Probably 2.5 times better than cars my family would have owned 50 years ago. Plus I ride a motorcycle whenever I can. Mostly for the enjoyment, but it results in major fuel savings (major within my family ). We do own a gas-hog truck that's nice, but rarely used. It's mostly used when we need a truck. Of course most other folks have much more fuel-efficient cars today compared to years past.

Gas is ~$2.00/gallon here...
Yes: "For other purposes" is what I meant to enter.

I was wrong, or at least it looks that way.

It appears that I either mis-remembered the article or misread it. When I do a quick google search it shows that way over half of oil is used for transportation and only a small part is used for Plastic production.

..Tom
01-22-2019 12:51 PM
HokiesRWee
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Originally Posted by V-Tom View Post
...If I recall correctly, the vast majority of oil is used [for other] purposes than being consumed as fuel...Tom
I think this is what you intended to say (minor adjustments within brackets are mine).

Assuming so, I think this might be correct, or somewhat correct. I can't cite the source, but I think I heard or read, recently, that fuel (gasoline, diesel) is becoming something of a byproduct of oil use for other uses. That statement caught my attention at the time.

In the US, and if here, probably in lots of other parts of the world, vehicles are much more efficient than they were. We own one car that gets ~30 MPG on trips. Probably 2.5 times better than cars my family would have owned 50 years ago. Plus I ride a motorcycle whenever I can. Mostly for the enjoyment, but it results in major fuel savings (major within my family ). We do own a gas-hog truck that's nice, but rarely used. It's mostly used when we need a truck. Of course most other folks have much more fuel-efficient cars today compared to years past.

Gas is ~$2.00/gallon here...
01-22-2019 12:47 PM
Macdoc
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nd......of course the never ending debate/argument over whether humans are accelerating ANYTHING related to climate change.
the "debate" ....entirely in your imagination....the world has moved on ...try it.

••••

Burgman 650 would be a good EV tho and maybe even a hybrid. Good platform for it but the eCVT in the Burgman is useless so might as well start from scratch.
01-22-2019 12:36 PM
HokiesRWee
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Originally Posted by notacop View Post
"This is all the people on the planet stacked in a small corner of the grand canyon."

I don't remember getting an invite to that photoshoot...
LOL!

01-21-2019 05:06 PM
Coach23101 Back on topic, if Suzuki made an electric Burgman I might buy one. Perfect for shopping and hopping in the city. The Burgman is an excellent and practical urban machine and a great candidate for electric power.
01-21-2019 02:20 PM
Big B
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Originally Posted by jerryscove View Post
Global crude oil production - 83 million barrels a day
Global coal production - 21 million metric tonnes a day
Global natural gas production - 10 billion cubic meters a day

Can someone calculate the total carbon released from these fossil fuels into our shared atmosphere each day?

Can someone forecast what will happen to our atmosphere if the current rate of methane released from northern permafrosts and ice covered water bodies continues or accelerates?

Fighting over whether the internal combustion engine or electric vehicles are better for our atmosphere and the health of our planet and ourselves is entertaining but...I do enjoy the fun of riding my bike don't get me wrong but given the ever increasing production of oil and gas and the impacts it has on disrupting climate we'll be lucky if our grandchildren will be able to peddle bikes.

And......of course the never ending debate/argument over whether humans are accelerating ANYTHING related to climate change.
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