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10-20-2017 11:09 PM
brutalguyracing I am a very experienced Moto camper
I am in the NYC Long island area
I go on trips about every other weekend
Hit me up if you'd like to take a
I take the roads less traveled
I do prefer north to the South route u are planning

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10-20-2017 07:13 PM
Stromb1 No one suggesting he should leave NYC and move somewhere nicer for enjoyable riding?
10-20-2017 06:58 PM
locoblanco
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Originally Posted by Burque73 View Post
Second that, riding is great therapy. More frequency for better results.

Just for giggles I looked up cycle therapy and there's actually a place in NYC by that name.
They say you never see a motorcycle parked outside a psychiatrist's office. Of course that could be in part because we're already paranoid of parking our bikes in parking lots.
10-20-2017 06:45 PM
Burque73 Second that, riding is great therapy. More frequency for better results.

Just for giggles I looked up cycle therapy and there's actually a place in NYC by that name.
10-20-2017 06:18 PM
Also Ran Riding is great therapy. There is a poem at the start or the movie "Road" the Joey Dunlop story which I can't find at the moment. It does an excellent job of describing the ZEN of riding, for lack of a better word. I'm an anxiety riddled, obsessive worrier. Once I'm on a bike the faster I go the less anything matters at least for that point in time. Get out get on and go and leave you s#!t at home. The early Sunday morning ride that was mentioned is a great idea. If I want a seriously spirited ride with less chance of meeting stupid on the road or punching my own ticket that's when I go. Good luck with it
10-20-2017 03:25 PM
bwringer Thanks for having the guts to check back in here! We weren't exactly gentle, were we?

Yep, you didn't really say that you had a fair bit of riding experience. That does make a big difference.

I (and others) assumed you were yet another dreamer who watched "Long Way Round", bought a tall, powerful, top-heavy adventure bike as their very first motorcycle ever, threw the Touratech catalog at it, loaded it up, and promptly scared themselves spitless.

I love these dreamers -- they're a great source of lightly scuffed ultra low-mileage bikes -- but obviously you're not really in that category.

Instead, you have a more specific, and very understandable, problem -- anxiety about traffic in and around NYC. It really is a unique place to drive and ride.

Part of the solution, of course, is to ride more and spend more time building up your skills and confidence. A smaller, cheaper, more agile bike might also be a good choice. An armored-up KLR650 (crash bars, handguards, etc.), for example, is the perfect urban assault bike.

You might also pick your times more carefully. Maybe figure out the times things are least crazy and use that time to get in and out of the city for a while.

Advanced training would be an excellent idea as well. The Lee Parks Total Control Riding courses are great, if you can find them within striking distance. If you can find an off-road riding clinic, you'll learn outstanding low-speed skills and be more in control of your bike at all times.

Lastly, it's also well worth beefing up your personal and bike "survivability" if you haven't done so already. For example, make sure your bike has crash bars, perhaps handguards, skidplate, radiator guard, and hard bags on either side (bags are great for making sure your legs don't get squished). Get folding shift and brake levers if they're available. Learn how to pick up your bike if you drop it or it gets knocked over (yes, there's a specific technique -- look on Youtube). Carry some basic tools and spare levers. If you know you'll likely be able to ride away from a drop or minor bump/knockdown, it'll help reduce anxiety.

Same for yourself, of course -- invest in good, COMPLETE armored gear if you haven't already. Full-face helmet, armored gloves jacket, boots, etc. Don't forego armored pants as so many people do. Get mesh for hot days, textile for the rest of the year. Good strong dual-sport boots will also do a lot to make sure you walk away from a minor oops instead of riding in an ambulance. Basically, modern armored gear is AMAZING stuff. (And I am living, breathing proof of that...). You don't need to spend a ton to get good protection.

Finally, one last small tip that a lot of people miss (again, you may already have this covered, so apologies): wear ear plugs. Ear plugs really help reduce mental and physical fatigue and anxiety. They also help you hear the things you need to hear better -- the ear plugs reduce the rumbling and roaring noise from the wind over your helmet, but they still allow higher-frequency sounds (sirens, horns, screaming) to be heard. Ear plugs attenuate sound; they do not remove sound completely.
10-20-2017 06:37 AM
spike55_bmw I too got the impression that you were a first-time rider and bought too much bike. Seems like truck drivers throw on the 4-way flashers as they drop below 50-55 mph. At least on secondary roads, it is assumed to be 55 mph if not posted. Maybe use that as your guide. Figure out the most direct route out / back in to NYC to minimize your exposure to "the crazies". Best of luck.
10-20-2017 02:13 AM
Big B Yup was under the impression as your first bike.....”keep on riding and the confidence will come”, and get the hell out of NYC more!!
10-20-2017 12:50 AM
G-Dub I think the general assumption was that this was your first bike...

I rode in a taxi once in NYC - I don't think you could pay me enough to drive there, much less ride!

I would also add, if you're having a particularly bad day, emotionally or physically, it's probably best to just go have a beer and put off riding until another day, especially when you're still building up your skills. There are days I just don't feel up to hopping on the bike, especially since my well-being depends on having all my wits about me.
10-20-2017 12:33 AM
stormbytes Appreciate everyone's input. Will hold off riding on the interstate until I'm comfortable. Its very hard to build seat time in NYC, especially when I'm so skittish of traffic. I've driven up and down the east coast and spent a good deal of time in the midwest. NYC traffic is unlike *anywhere* else. This place is literally a zoo. Traffic signs, laws, conventions mean exactly nothing here. It makes little difference how experienced you are.

For the poster that suggested I bought the 'wrong bike' I'd love to hear your reasons. What bike would you have suggested I buy instead? I did quit a bit of research. Have previously owned a Suzuki GS500F, (2) Ducati Monster M696's and a little TUX 250. I considered (and twice, test rode) the Wee, but didn't make the connection and wasn't about to drop the $ on a bike I simply wasn't in love with. My issue, as I understand it, is simply a case of anxiety. I've been off the bike for a while (and recently went through a pretty nasty and emotionally draining divorce). Plainly stated: my nerves are shot and I know it. But slowly I'm rebuilding. I've had the V2 for about 2 weeks now and have so far put just over 300 miles on it, and this is all city riding. Initially I was afraid of my own shadow but now I'm quite comfortable riding and passing people. I'm not locking up on the bars so much. I still have trouble (and have been avoiding) multi lane roads. The combination of wind, sounds and nut case drivers really freaks me out. I will definitely take Rollingcarpenter55 's advice to build up tolerance to speed and gradually raise my comfort level. Everyone has made excellent points and some ideas have really resonated. Thanks to all for taking the time.
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