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06-28-2015 09:32 PM
wackokid Most of the times I have seen anyone successfully demonstrate the zip tie method I have noticed that it usually happens to be on sportbike tires and usually the rear. My take away is that the wider tire (and wheel), plus softer sidewall probably allows for a lot more flexing and deflection than a typical DS style tire that has a narrow mounting width and stiffer sidewall.
06-27-2015 07:39 PM
cpd419
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Originally Posted by Spec View Post
Try using a strap around a wheel spoke wrapped around one of the arms of the changer. That will stop the wheel from spinning.

I just installed a rear Shinko 705. Easy with my HF changer. Got to keep the opposite bead down in the rim though. To me it didn't have a stiff side wall compared to some dirt bike tires I've changed.
Thanks for the advise. That would have helped immensely. I might try it again next time now.
06-27-2015 11:53 AM
MikeB Stiff sidewalls are a mixed blessing, to be sure. Hard to spoon on or off a rim, but I once had to ride a few miles on a rear with 0 pressure. It stayed on and the bike was (barely) rideable.
06-27-2015 11:33 AM
Spec
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We use a no mar. I don't know if it is the stiff side walls of the dual sport tires or what but I will most likely pay someone next time. Took forever and was way too much work. And is about impossible to lock the wheels completely in at least on ours.

Try using a strap around a wheel spoke wrapped around one of the arms of the changer. That will stop the wheel from spinning.

I just installed a rear Shinko 705. Easy with my HF changer. Got to keep the opposite bead down in the rim though. To me it didn't have a stiff side wall compared to some dirt bike tires I've changed.
06-26-2015 11:13 PM
cpd419 We use a no mar. I don't know if it is the stiff side walls of the dual sport tires or what but I will most likely pay someone next time. Took forever and was way too much work. And is about impossible to lock the wheels completely in at least on ours.
06-26-2015 11:01 PM
Illinois
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Have the zip ties, new tire came in yesterday. Just need to get motivated. Bad weather forecasts for the next 7 days. :beatnik:
It looked so easy on Youtube. Garage temps were in the 50 s, stiff walled Heidy. Sure glad I had those tire irons.
06-22-2015 08:36 PM
Spec
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What helps in MAJOR WAY to install tires, is spray the tire beads and rim edges with silicone. It will also help to break the bead when you are next time removing the old tires.

I don't think that silicone is a good idea, remains slippery right?

Windex works, it will dry out and not let the tire slip on the rim. There are tire specific lubes also. I use stuff that Napa Auto sells.
06-22-2015 08:28 PM
Spec
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Originally Posted by bwringer View Post

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Same with a No Mar or similar tire changers -- they're very fast once you finally get the wheel clamped into place, but it usually takes 20 minutes of farting around with the clamps (and the wheel popping out over and over and over and over) before you can commence.

This goes a little faster if you only work on bikes where the wheel diameter is the same. On bikes with different front and rear diameters, there's a good chance someone with a little tire iron experience will be done while the No-Mar team is still cursing at the rim clamps.

I've got a Harbor Freight changer with Mojo blocks and a Mojo lever. Set-up takes a couple of minutes.

I've used tire irons for decades. The HF changer is much easier, piece o' cake compared to irons.

Here's how easy it is.

06-21-2015 04:04 PM
Luma What helps in MAJOR WAY to install tires, is spray the tire beads and rim edges with silicone. It will also help to break the bead when you are next time removing the old tires.
02-16-2015 10:22 AM
Rick505 I've used the "zip tie" method twice now for installation only. Both times I used irons to remove the old tire and also both times were summer time changes and left new tire in the sun to warm up. Basically I used large ties to bring the beads of the tire together, used plenty of lube on the wheel and after a couple attempts the tire did pop on the wheel pretty easy. Since then I picked up a harbor freight changer and MC attachment. Now it seems both tires are lasting much longer and I've not used the changer yet.

Rick
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