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11-09-2013 08:53 PM
Sprocket
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Originally Posted by Noobens View Post
The last set of All Balls fork seals that I saw were VERY similar to Leak Proof brand seals. AKA no metal spring, and "Leak Prone."

Can you post a picture of the All Balls seals that you ordered? I'm interested to see if they have changed their seal design.
I bought a set of All Balls seals (Ebay) that included oil and dust seals because I needed to replace the dust seals and the kit cost about the same a one OEM dust seal. I didn't replace the oil seals, but the dust seals were fine, if a bit shorter than OEM. The oil seals do have metal springs in them, 2 springs in each seal.
11-09-2013 08:23 PM
Crickle I would only go with OEM fork seals.
For whatever reason, they have less stiction than aftermarket.
09-27-2013 10:26 AM
Sagebrush For OEM parts I've used Xtreme Powersports lately, they have the same prices as cheap cycle parts, but they ship USPS Priority for "free". So, its a slightly better deal on smaller orders.

I recently ordered the oil seals and the dust seals for the DL1000. I going to put new springs in and figured it was a good time to do new fork seals. My used bike was leaking a good bit, I cleaned them with good results. About 90% of the leaking stopped but the right leg is a bit too wet still.

I've used both ATF and fork oil, either works if you don't need a heavier oil. You can also use hydraulic oils, Hyguard etc. I went with PJ 10 wt this time since I was ordering parts anyway.
09-27-2013 09:55 AM
ezrdr55
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Originally Posted by Noobens View Post
The last set of All Balls fork seals that I saw were VERY similar to Leak Proof brand seals. AKA no metal spring, and "Leak Prone." I would fit either OEM or Parts Unlimited seals with a true metal spring. I've installed probably 300 sets of Parts Unlimited seals and have yet to have one come back due to a premature leak. OEM is always your best bet, but most people don't want to pay the OEM premium.

Can you post a picture of the All Balls seals that you ordered? I'm interested to see if they have changed their seal design.
I'm leaving for vacation, but as soon as I get back I'll be changing the seals and will post some pictures. Thanks for the heads up on the All Balls. FYI - my OEM seals are not leaking but I'm going in there to replace the bushings and that dust cover is all weather checked so I thought I'd just replace that and the seals too.
09-27-2013 03:35 AM
Noobens
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Originally Posted by ezrdr55 View Post
I got my fork seals from Motosport.com. You have a choice of All Balls or OEM. I ordered both and just did receive my order so I haven't had time to evaluate which one I will use. I also got new fork bushings. I also use synthetic ATF.
The last set of All Balls fork seals that I saw were VERY similar to Leak Proof brand seals. AKA no metal spring, and "Leak Prone." I would fit either OEM or Parts Unlimited seals with a true metal spring. I've installed probably 300 sets of Parts Unlimited seals and have yet to have one come back due to a premature leak. OEM is always your best bet, but most people don't want to pay the OEM premium.

Can you post a picture of the All Balls seals that you ordered? I'm interested to see if they have changed their seal design.
09-25-2013 09:44 AM
ezrdr55
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Originally Posted by jeff_connors View Post
"easier to buy" Right! Just ask the auto parts guy for fork oil. He looks like a cow looking at a new gate.

Anyone recommend where to buy fork seals?
I got my fork seals from Motosport.com. You have a choice of All Balls or OEM. I ordered both and just did receive my order so I haven't had time to evaluate which one I will use. I also got new fork bushings. I also use synthetic ATF.
09-25-2013 08:29 AM
jeff_connors
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Originally Posted by PeteW View Post
Where ATF is a close match to the fork oil needed it's a great choice. And for the stock DL shocks, it is.
It's viscosity is way more stable with temperature, it doesn't break down nearly as fast - and if you buy Dextron-III from any manufacturer it's viscosity is within a few % of everyone elses.

With 'real' fork oils 10W from one manufacturer can be vastly different to the viscosity from another.

Oh. yeah, it's a lot cheaper and easier to buy.

Pete
"easier to buy" Right! Just ask the auto parts guy for fork oil. He looks like a cow looking at a new gate.

Anyone recommend where to buy fork seals?
09-25-2013 04:25 AM
PeteW
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Originally Posted by Noobens View Post
There's nothing wrong with ATF for most street going bikes that don't see track or offroad use, but for my money I'll spend the extra $8. You only have to change it once every few years anyways! There are some things that make sense to cheap out on, but fork oil I will never understand.
Where ATF is a close match to the fork oil needed it's a great choice. And for the stock DL shocks, it is.
It's viscosity is way more stable with temperature, it doesn't break down nearly as fast - and if you buy Dextron-III from any manufacturer it's viscosity is within a few % of everyone elses.

With 'real' fork oils 10W from one manufacturer can be vastly different to the viscosity from another.

Oh. yeah, it's a lot cheaper and easier to buy.

Pete
09-24-2013 10:46 PM
Noobens There's nothing wrong with ATF for most street going bikes that don't see track or offroad use, but for my money I'll spend the extra $8. You only have to change it once every few years anyways! There are some things that make sense to cheap out on, but fork oil I will never understand.
07-08-2013 11:47 PM
coral_snake I have been using atf for about 40 years with no problems. Doesn't work real good in a dirt bike with a lot of heavy use because it foams but for street use and light off road use it is fine.
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