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09-27-2013 09:45 PM
Bugzy One thing for certain, you can't compare a DL1K with a Burgman scooter. lol.

The 1K is a bit of a beast. It has a racing motor in it, so high revs are required. If you want something you can ride at low revs, you need to move into a cruiser, or maybe a 4 cylinder bike.

It sounds like this bike is not for you. Maybe try moving to the 650 model. They are easier to control and have cable clutch too (not Hydraulic), so easier on the wrist in stop and go traffic.
09-27-2013 09:43 PM
davenjai The bike is not a tractor. Your hand controls the on/off/chudder/motor is about to grenade factor. If you hate it, sell it.

At lower rpm's easing in and out of throttle smooths things out. Above a certain rpm (your bike/tune decides that) you can be more ham fisted. It will still chop, if you chop at any rpm.

After many a bike, I am convinced that this is a big twin that likes to rev. You can throw money and time at it and make it smoother. It will never be a "Harley", S10 or GS.
09-27-2013 08:30 PM
millwright98
feel for you!

I did a lot of lurking and reading before I committed to buying a bike, that size wise and aesthetically I fell in love with... a 2002 DL1000, in blue of course!

The 4 most important things I have done in the last 2 months that have completely changed the bike:

1 - Werks clutch basket - IMO this is a MUST DO. Bike is mechanically smoother in all RPM's, specially on the lower end and feels trustworthy in twisties..can corner without hovering over the clutch lever in fear...no more angry demons in the engine case.

2 - tps/tbs - easy to do and factory "ok" settings..are just that..fine tuning is exactly what it is.

3- Power Commander V - incredible change in overall dynamic of the engine and it's response...smooth flowing power, significantly less twitchy, surging gone - all depending on the map you install of course.( bloody witchcraft !). I do believe you should dial in you bike mechanically as well as possible before installing this.

4- re-gearing to 17/45 - helps considerably to lessen that throttle on snap to your neck and low speed maneuvering is much improved (and setting up the throttle cables as previous poster commented)

I am no expert and owe most of what I have done to the great and knowledgeable folks on this site who have created brilliant posts and answered my pm's with enthusiasm!!! I continue to love the big blue beast, as a dream come true for me.... I can also do all of my own work and my investment has been in the parts and no labor charges...so to each their own...just my $0.02 Good Luck!!!
09-27-2013 02:48 PM
VFRJohn
First, be sure what the problem is!

Again: As someone mentioned a few posts back - try to determine whether it is Vee's in general that don't feel right to you, or yours in particular.

To wit: try to find another Vee rider near you and arrange a ride. Swap bikes for a few miles and see if either of you notices anything different.

My bet is your bike is sick and you would like it if it was normal. There are too many other people riding Vee's who never mention the kind of misbehavior you relate for it to be common.

Once you determine that, you can decide with greater confidence whether to fix, replace, or get a different type.

Good luck!
09-23-2013 11:09 AM
MikeB If I were in your position that bike would be so far gone that NSA could no longer monitor its whereabouts. Life is short; get something you really like.
09-22-2013 08:13 PM
Transpomgr I bought my 07 1k from a yamaha dealer in north tx a few months ago. The test ride was fine, but I noticed a slight surge on the way home. Ride it to work the next day and thought it ran a bit rough, but it's my first twin, so maybe this is what they do. I got into some heave traffic about a mile from work and the most terrifying surge of unplanned acceleration I have ever had hit. I got off the throttle and on the binders quick with no harm. Parked it at work all day and thought about it. Rode home and it was now worse, one cylinder cutting in and out, backfiring on gear or throttle changes. Got the wife and kids loaded up to follow me to the dealer. Get to the last light before the highway and the bike dies. Jump start doesn't work. Find a new battery and she starts right up, but still running the same but the dealer will be closed before we get there so back home with the same issues. Call the dealer in the morning and tell them that they are going to fix it, or they can keep it. Their mechanic had ten years at a Suzuki dealer and races an sv. He had me pull the bike in and started tearing it down with the grace of a man that had done this a thousand times before. He gained my confidence when he listed off all the possibilities that people have suggested, along with his "special friend" a Yosh box. Called me in a couple hours and said he was done. New plugs, one loose boot, adjust idle, reprogram CPU with the yosh box. Runs great!
I'm at about 1k miles now and my mileage is about 40 average.
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A lot of what you are saying, I agree with. Before this, my first fuel injected bike was a 99 triumph sprint. There was a definite on/off to the throttle control. The VEE is much more "light switch" like. I do have some slop in my cables, and am going to try to adjust and see if that helps. Other than that, it's been a really great bike.
I think what you need is someone that really knows these bikes to have a look. Most of your symptoms sound like they could be the result of a $2 hose leaking.


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09-22-2013 04:53 PM
slickster57 There is something (or things) wrong with your bike....as someone else said, loose intake boot #1....a properly dialed in Vee with a PCIII should have very few hiccups to the point where it is a non issue....didn't see what year you are dealing with...what year is it?....I have a 2012 that has the updated ECM and it is a pleasure to ride...zero hiccups/surging anywhere on the rpm scale....I did switch to a 16/43 and it made the bike come alive with OD right where it belongs....I get your frustration but maybe run it by a sport bike shop (not dealer) that knows what they are doing before you move on...IMO...it's worth it...
09-22-2013 04:38 PM
Pfarthing6 Some very insightful advice guys. I'm very much obliged and am going to have to think about it some.

When deciding to go with an Adv bike, I was really torn between the Triumph Tiger and the Vee. I went with the Vee because I have been a twin rider for years and years.

I figured it would be something between my Honda 650GT and BMW airhead and was afraid the Triumph triple would be too much like an I4, which have never suited me.

There are definitely some pros to the Strom, having almost double the horses of my beemer certainly put a smile on my face. Highway riding is totally smooth and a lot better than any other bike I've had except a K1000RT that I owned briefly.

I'm not one to easily give up, but yeah, I never rode one before except for a bit of a test drive around the block on this one before shelling out the cash and I didn't know what to expect really. It seemed "OK", and I always assume I'll need to tinker, which I don't mind doing at all.

What sold me more though was the following these bikes have. Coming from mostly beemers for the last 20 years, I feel that getting something that has a good user base is pretty important, for a lot of obvious reasons, but also for just being part of a community and such.

Also just to mention, my very first bike was a Suzuki TS185, so there was a bit of nostalgia involved with choosing the Vee as well.

Anyway, what I'm taking home from all these great suggestions is:
- check the TPS and throttle cable adj.
- check header seating/tightness
- try tweaking a map (I did use the Chef "fat" map, but maybe that's not quite the right one for me)
- check chain (still kind of weird to have a chain again, LOL!)
- and if that gets me close, spend money...
- try a bigger rear sprocket (lower gear ratio)
- get the clutch modded

...even then, it may not be the cruiser (aka "tractor") I'm looking for. Ha!

Well, perhaps it's worth a bit more of my time to try getting it dialed in a little better and might help the resale value too, because after a test ride, it really could be the bike that somebody else is looking for

But yeah, point taken about just moving on too. There are LOTS of bikes out there indeed ...and thankfully, lots of good people to help me figure this stuff out

Thanks folks. Any more personal comments on what you went through to get your Vee to your liking would still be appreciated. Really enjoy hearing personal stories like that...
09-22-2013 09:41 AM
richw My spirit guide tells me you have a loose throttle body boot

Check the rear sprocket and carrier

Get that pea from under the mattress
09-22-2013 09:31 AM
nbsdave
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Originally Posted by meick View Post
Life is too short to be that unhappy with a motorcycle, and there are lot's to choose from. Sell it and move on.


+1
get rid of it and move on
at this point nothing you do will take the bad taste away
and you are likely committed to hating this bike
find a Triumph or Yamaha
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