WOOT good opener
ANY BS at the borders?
My proposed routes seemed to be 450 miles google says 12 hours
Were you going "fast" or just cruizin and would have done 450 in about 10 ?
Your last question I already answered in my first post. My average speed was 49mph.
I have lost count of how many times I have crossed the border into Canada. But, it has been enough times that some of the customs agents recognize me and I recognize them; on both sides of the border! I have been on a first name basis with two of the US agents.
Last year, I was detained for about 20 mins while a Canadian agent wanted to ask me a bunch of bogus questions. To me, he was in a bad mood and he needed someone to vent on. I was okay with that. I wanted to ride and that wasn't going to happen until he was satisfied he was done. So, I let it all go. Other then that, I have NEVER had an issue at a border crossing. I have never been searched. I breeze right through. On this trip, as I came back into the US, the very nice customs woman whined to me that she wanted to be doing what I was doing. Most often, I can have the agents laughing before I leave their station.
As to mileage and routes, I don't plan them. When I leave my home, all that I have in my mind is an idea in my head; a general direction that I would like to ride in. I am no longer riding with a GPS. I use maps. I change my route, on-the-fly as I ride. There is NOTHING set in stone; it all unfolds as the miles pass beneath my tires.
Because I have ridden so much in this region, I know how long it takes me to get from "point A", to "point B". I use that information to make assumptions of, "Well, if I can get from here to there in a day, it looks like it is about the same distance from this point to that point. I can do that." I have done enough of this type of riding that I "string together" the "I can do that" scenarios.
I do not calculate mileage before I leave, nor do I map out directions. I do the directions part at stops along the way, (during a fuel stop), and I only tally up the mileage at the end of the day.
What you are trying to do with your Vermont gathering is, to plan trips for multiple people riding in different groups. You are making the assumption that they are going to ride like you do. They don't. 450 miles in 10hrs for you, could be a two day ride for someone else. My third trip this season, up through Fort Kent, then back down through New Brunswick, I did in one day. I knew that I could do that before I left home. A former co-worker of mine does that ride in three days.
When trying to plan what you are planning, for other people, you are stepping into a mine field of assumptions about riding skills and styles. I personally don't like putting myself in that spot!
Where I have gotten to with my riding is; I load up the bike, put my gear on, turn the key and ride. I let my imagination do my planning for me. It may be likened to; giving someone a blank canvas, a large box of pastels, or watercolors, and tell them, "Do whatever you want to do, between right now and Sunday evening. When Sunday evening comes around, you have to stop doing what you are doing. And, what you end up with is what you end up with."
My ever continuing hope is, I get to "paint" again the following weekend.
It's a "one-on-one" experience for me; my bike, me, the roads and wherever they lead me, and the people that I meet along the way.