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post #21 of 59 Old 11-18-2018, 07:37 PM
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The Juniors that have failed all have had one tip-off to the electronics failure: The green LED will flicker erratically. According to Deltran, there is no other cause for that other than an internal electronic failure.
With other chargers, or ones that have had too high a rating for the amp/hr capacity of the battery, I have seen batteries melt, boil over, remove paint, and etch frames. But all those cases were with lead-acid batteries, never with an AGM battery. Either I have been extremely lucky these past 20 years or AGM batteries just do not boil over, melt, catch fire, or a Battery Tender Plus malfunction doesnt happen, or a combination of the 2.
When I do take one of my bikes out, the power strip for all 3 Tenders is switched off, so periodically all of the bikes see no charging or tending action.
The Plus charging rate at full tilt is 1.25A, the Jr. is .75A. Enough to possibly, evenutally rin a battery dry, although before my bikes used AGM and I was using lead-acid batteries, I never had a battery run low. Deltran did warn about this in the manual supplied with the Tender.
The original Tender used a translucent plastic 2-wire connector, square on the bottom, roof-shaped on top. The Tender Plus that succeeded the Tender use a SAE rubberized molded connector, with an encapsulated female terminal and an exposed male terminal.
The charging rate strategy was also changed in the Plus to me more compatible with the AGM batteries that succeeded the lead-acid batteries. The Plus works well with both lead-acid and AGM, but the original Tender had problems charging the AGM.
In any event, I check my battery capacities at least once every 2 months. When I see that capacity dropping, the battery gets replaced.
My sister-in-law who lives in Florida 4 months out of the year was hesitant to use a Battery Tender in her '05 Mustang while she was gone, claiming she heard of battery maintainer-caused fires. A call to the local department told her the reasons for the fires were people using damaged extension cords between the wall outlet and the Tender. I keep mine plugged into the wall outlet, but instead of using an extension cord, I use a Battery Tender extension cable between the Tender and the battery. As I said, 20 years and not an issue whatsoever.
The recommended initial charging rate is 1/10th the amp-hr capacity of the battery X 10 hours. Beyond the initial charging procedure, the 1/10th recommendation still applies. According to Yuasa, the YTX12-BS as used in a '04-'17 DL650 Vstrom 10 has a rating of 10 amp-hours. The Tender Jr would be ideal having a maximum charging rate of .75 amps. The '02-'16 DL1000 Vstrom uses a YTX14-BS, which has a rating of 12 amp-hours, for which the Tender Plus would be a better choice as it has a charging rate of 1.25A. All 3 of my bikes have batteries of a 12 amp-our rating and are on Pluses. My son's SV650, with the YTX-12BS sits on a Battery Tender Jr.
I dont worry about any of the 4 in my garage, but I am vigilant.
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Lrobby, yep.... didn't pull the battery, just put it on a tender via a pigtail attached to battery. Never had a problem with that with several bikes over several years.
For you guys that ride on those nice sunny 50+ degree days in the winter..... Well, the thing that keeps me off the road is the SALT. Even on a nice day, all that salt dust is still on the roadways. You can see it on every cage on the road. It's almost atomized. And it gets into all the little nooks and crannies on a motorcycle. Maybe I'm over paranoid about this, but just picture an electrical failure the following August, hundreds of miles from home from some connection that just corroded out due to salt. I've got no problem riding in cold weather - heated gear; but it's the salt that keeps me off the roadways until a cleansing rain or two in the spring.
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Even the cheap ones from harbor freight, no problems.
Just found the HF tender on my Wee was putting out nothing. You need to verify the voltage output occasionally. All looked normal, but the battery was dead, and tender output was 0.0
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[QUOTE=RebornRider;5325473
For you guys that ride on those nice sunny 50+ degree days in the winter..... Well, the thing that keeps me off the road is the SALT. Even on a nice day, all that salt dust is still on the roadways. You can see it on every cage on the road. It's almost atomized. And it gets into all the little nooks and crannies on a motorcycle. Maybe I'm over paranoid about this, but just picture an electrical failure the following August, hundreds of miles from home from some connection that just corroded out due to salt. I've got no problem riding in cold weather - heated gear; but it's the salt that keeps me off the roadways until a cleansing rain or two in the spring.
If yer riding..... ride safe all.
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Agree completely.
There was a thread here last Winter about a guy trying to sue Suzuki b/c his new DL1000 was rusting and pitting.
He rode a few roads with some level of salt contamination, and that was all it took.
No one here gave his lawsuit a fart's chance in a tornado.

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Just got back from checking on the girl.All is good she looks well and to think 1 month down 5 1/2 more to go.
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Not time in east Tennessee yet. Saturday we rode the newly opened "missing link" of the Foothills Parkway. Mid fifties , sunny and dry , heated gear on low or switched off. Probably will be close to Christmas before time for it's winter nap . Set the alarm for mid March.

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Slow Eddie..... do they salt the roads down there?
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I've only seen and heard of gravel here in Blount County. I've never seen salt or brine used on any of the parkways, either . I live on a steep road and they use gravel only . In Knoxville they use a lot of salt and brine. Both are nasty . but necessary I suppose.

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Winter has come early and caught me off guard, I haven't winterized my bike yet. I do the typical: treat gas, change oil if over 2K miles, pull battery and keep charged, wash bike if dirty, mist cylinders if I'm feeling energetic.

One thing that's not typical is that I store the seat inside and treat it with a vinyl conditioner. Over years the cold will dry and crack the vinyl, it also prohibits mice from nesting under the seat. I check and/or replace the air filter in the spring, and I'll evict any mice that have moved in over the winter. I found them once under the seat and never in the airbox.
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Winter has come early and caught me off guard, I haven't winterized my bike yet. I do the typical: treat gas, change oil if over 2K miles, pull battery and keep charged, wash bike if dirty, mist cylinders if I'm feeling energetic.

One thing that's not typical is that I store the seat inside and treat it with a vinyl conditioner. Over years the cold will dry and crack the vinyl, it also prohibits mice from nesting under the seat. I check and/or replace the air filter in the spring, and I'll evict any mice that have moved in over the winter. I found them once under the seat and never in the airbox.
Some good ideas here! I like the idea of removing the seat to deny mice that shelter they often seek. Gonna do it! Thanks!
Is it spring yet? :-)
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