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post #1 of 15 Old 11-19-2009, 12:01 AM Thread Starter
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Want to add O2 sensor

I own an '08 Wee from North America. I want to add an O2 sensor. How difficult would this be?

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I own an '08 Wee from North America. I want to add an O2 sensor. How difficult would this be?
It would require a Euro ECU and wiring harness. Are you aware it's only an emissions control device and will do nothing for performance?

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It would require a Euro ECU and wiring harness.
I was hoping it would be as simple as buying a $20. sensor and plugging it into the existing harness. Anyone with a euro bike that needs a North American wiring harness?

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Are you aware it's only an emissions control device and will do nothing for performance?
It's the OCD in me. Also call me a hippie, but I like clean air. It's one of the reasons I started riding in the first place. It also annoys me when I get knocking on low octane fuel at high altitude. I believe that an engine run at stoichiometric will last longer than one run anywhere else.

I thought it had one when I bought it!

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High altitude means a lower octane requirement. My 650 runs fine on 85 octane over 5000ft. Good on ya for your concern about the environment. Most questions about emissions here are about taking the emissions gear off.

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High altitude means a lower octane requirement.
I thought it was the other way around. Not trying to argue; a quick internet search shows I got it wrong. Now that I think about it the high octane didn't help as much as I assumed; I remember knocking around 9000ft on 91 octane.

Just chalk up another reason for the O2 sensor. I thought I left these altitude problems behind with my carburated bike.

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An O2 sensor will not help with an off kilter mixture. Try using 85 octane if it is available locally or 87 at lower altitudes. If it pings, something is wrong. It may need a throttle body synch or it may have a loose boot on the throttle body allowing an air leak. A properly set up 650 should not ping, especially at higher altitudes. The dual plug heads are very good at mixture firing control. Make sure all four plugs are okay too.

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I would not call it a "ping," more like a tickle. Or maybe a tick. Only at altitude though. It seemed worse with 85 octane but now that I think back, both were offenders.

I have yet to do the TBS, something about needing a special tool. I hate special tools and love riding. It's on the "when the snow flies" list.

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You may be mistaking the typical clatter the engine makes for pinging. It may be camshaft end float but sounds like tapping two hammerheads together and is louder when cold. It is normal. Pinging sounds like rattling a tin can with some BBs in it that is especially noticeable if the throttle is opened wide at low rpms, like 3000-3500 to start with, and should be addressed.

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You may be mistaking the typical clatter the engine makes for pinging. It may be camshaft end float but sounds like tapping two hammerheads together and is louder when cold. It is normal. Pinging sounds like rattling a tin can with some BBs in it that is especially noticeable if the throttle is opened wide at low rpms, like 3000-3500 to start with, and should be addressed.
It is definitely NOT hard pinging; the kind that damages your engine and makes your block ring like a bell. I've heard that before, even from the Wee just before I stalled it on a hill.

There is nothing wrong with the engine.

The engine just makes this noise, at altitude, under moderate to high power. I don't know if the O2 sensor would solve the problem or not. I didn't want an O2 sensor to fix this "problem," I just hoped that if I got one, it would help.

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I think you have a normal noise there. See if you can locate another Wee in your area to compare. An O2 sensor will do nothing for any noise. It will just be a part of an anti-pollution enhancement. A bike with an O2 sensor and related systems will meet the present Euro pollution standards which are a little tougher than the present California standard. The latter will be met by your bike if there a California statement on the frame placard.

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