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post #11 of 21 Old 08-15-2019, 03:40 PM
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Thing is, you don't know if they need adjusting unless you check. The first time would be the most important check/adjust.

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Thanks for your help everyone! I'll be getting it checked this next week.

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Excellent. It's way overdue.

You can stretch the maintenance intervals later when you've established some history with the bike and understand the pattern, but you gotta do the first few.

What most have found is that they close up a wee bit during the first 50,000 miles or so then don't seem to move much after that.

My Vee came to me with 45,000 miles and records of one dealer valve check at some point in the distant past. Seven out of the eight were tight. I changed one shim at the next check, and since then the clearances haven't moved. It's at nearly 120,000 now and I'm not touching it again until 150,000.

I've seen much the same in the Wees I've worked on and many other bikes for that matter.

Let us know how it goes!

If you're having a shop do it, make SURE you get the records of clearances, and if they change any shims, the records of what shims were replaced with what.
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Excellent. It's way overdue.

You can stretch the maintenance intervals later when you've established some history with the bike and understand the pattern, but you gotta do the first few.

What most have found is that they close up a wee bit during the first 50,000 miles or so then don't seem to move much after that.

My Vee came to me with 45,000 miles and records of one dealer valve check at some point in the distant past. Seven out of the eight were tight. I changed one shim at the next check, and since then the clearances haven't moved. It's at nearly 120,000 now and I'm not touching it again until 150,000.

I've seen much the same in the Wees I've worked on and many other bikes for that matter.

Let us know how it goes!

If you're having a shop do it, make SURE you get the records of clearances, and if they change any shims, the records of what shims were replaced with what.
I'll be getting it checked out tonight, and as long as we are in there, will be doing a Coolant flush and refill, new Plugs, plus Oil and Filter. I'll report back what we find!

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So, after a bit of delay getting the bike into my Mechanic garage, here's what was done and discovered:
Flushed and Changed Coolant, Oil & Filter - Amsoil Synthetic 10W-40, K&N Filter, Two NGK Iridum Plugs, found out after the fact this bike takes 4 Plugs! The two pulled looked fine though. Will probably not worry about the other two.
Valve Check:
Rear Cylinder: Intake Left .006, Right .005, Exhaust .009 Both
Front Cylinder: Intake both .006, Exhaust both .009
So, all within spec, no shims needed. Mileage was at 25,945 at this time.
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Excellent! You've measured, and now you know.

One thing to note: the K&N oil filter has a decent quality filter element, but they VERY VERY commonly leak at the point where the sheet metal fake "nut" is spot-welded to the filter can. Overall it's a good idea, but poor execution; the spot welds are just not strong enough to actually use the "nut".

If yours is fine at the moment, don't worry about it, but next time there are better options for less money, like Wix/Napa and HiFloFiltro. You'll just need a "cap" style oil filter wrench.

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Thanks for the Tip! I'll remember for next oil change.
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Ö. One thing to note: the K&N oil filter has a decent quality filter element, but they VERY VERY commonly leak at the point where the sheet metal fake "nut" is spot-welded to the filter can. Overall it's a good idea, but poor execution; the spot welds are just not strong enough to actually use the "nut". .
Well you must have had bad luck. I have used them exclusively and had no problem. The torque necessary to put them on is not very high.

Also this is the first I remember reading that they are failing. Maybe I just missed other such reports?

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Well you must have had bad luck. I have used them exclusively and had no problem. The torque necessary to put them on is not very high.

Also this is the first I remember reading that they are failing. Maybe I just missed other such reports?

You're kidding, right? I've seen a few myself.

Google "K&N Oil Filter Leak" and marvel... they even had a recall, and true to form for most manufacturer recalls, the problems continue.

Not worth monkeying with this when there are so many other excellent choices. And it's definitely not worth paying the premium for a little sheet metal fake nut you can't really use.

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I checked with my mechanic, and he's never seen it, but he did say he always just uses a Filter Wrench that grabs the whole filter.

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