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post #1 of 74 Old 04-05-2019, 01:47 PM Thread Starter
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Chain lube-here we go!

I have been reading the old lube threads (cause I like different opinions) and one thing I noticed is a lot of folk like the DuPont Chain Saver, but they keep talking about how DuPont changed the formula from the blue can stuff. Now these threads were all a few years old, so it is easy to get confused. Anyway, it is now 2019. I was in Walmart today and they have yellow can DuPont Chain Saver WAX based chain lube. I have used it and while it goes on thin, it quickly dries to a clear, waxy film. Just sayin, it seems like really good stuff. Smells like Maxima, but dries clear and doesn't attract dirt. Seven bucks a can. Let the games begin!
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Yeah, that's stuff we're talking about. I don't think the formula for the Chain Saver changed, it was the original DuPont Teflon dry wax lube that changed and became unsuitable for chain use. I like the DuPont Chain Saver lube. As you say, goes on thin and dries clear and dry. Not the longest lasting (in terms of mileage) lube that I've used, but as good as any of the dry lubes I've used in that regard, with a minimum of mess and fling.

In the past I regularly used:
Maxima chain wax (literally stinks like an oil refinery when applied)
PJ1 Blue Label (pretty good stuff, flings a bit more than Chain Saver)
Motul clear lube (pretty good, flings a bit more)
Spray grease (industrial stuff I got from a friend. Was actually really good, quite similar to PJ1. Light purplish colour. Great for pivot points and such, too).

But the chain saver stuff has been my go to for quite a few years now, and the Teflon dry wax stuff before that.

A few years ago I tried Motul Chain Paste. Didn't care for it, personally - kind of messy, prone to flinging off, and I could hear my x-rings squeaking between the sideplates (yes, seriously) of the chain while rolling the bike around my garage. Chain died early, too.
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This NAPA Chain and Cable Lube works best for me.
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Bel-Ray Super Clean Chain lube is my favorite. Dries and does not attract dirt like oils and wax.

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When people give chain lube advice and mention which chain lube they like the best, I like to ask why.

To me chain life is the most important factor. In a poll I did here years ago it came out that most chains lasted around 20,000 to 25,000 miles and it didn't seem to matter what lube they used. In some cases riders got the same life using no lube. Riders that lubed a lot, typically with auto chain oilers, reported much greater chain life.

I have never used a chain oiler but lube with every fill up and after every ride in the rain. I use Wurth HHS2000. Since doing that My chains have lasted way longer than what most get. The chain on my 2015 DL1000 currently had 85,814 km / 53,322 miles on the last fillup. It will most likely be replaced when I change my rear tire. This should be somewhere in the next 6,000 or 7,000 km / 3,500 to 4,000 miles.


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I wipe-down with kerosene on a rag and lube with 90wt synthetic gear oil (from any local autopart store for a few bucks per big bottle.) Just as Suzuki recommended...for decades... Near 25K on this chain and I expect atleast another 10k+. No rust, no kinks/tight spots, looks perfect. Daily if I'm touiring (at the end of each day) or once a week or so if I'm just cruising about near home.
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.....To me chain life is the most important factor.....

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I currently have over 32,000 miles (59,000 km) on my ZRX1200 EK chain with no signs of problems. I use the NAPA product mentioned above. I lube the change every other gas fill up (approx. 300 miles). I also never clean the chain with solvents. My feeling is that solvents tend to remove the lubricants behind the O ring causing the chain to fail prematurely.

IMPORTANT: I apply the lube to a cloth, then wipe the chain with the cloth. This prevents putting too much lube on the chain AND cleans off dirt and build-up at the same time.
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I currently have over 32,000 miles (59,000 km) on my ZRX1200 EK chain with no signs of problems. I use the NAPA product mentioned above. I lube the change every other gas fill up (approx. 300 miles). I also never clean the chain with solvents. My feeling is that solvents tend to remove the lubricants behind the O ring causing the chain to fail prematurely.
Are we seeing a trend of "cleaning your chain is bad mmmkay".. ?

I'm with Tom and Big Boy, never cleaning my chain again. Gas up, lube, ride, rinse and repeat.
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On the topic of Dupont's new yellow can, it's a great creeper oil... it'll get everywhere fast, then dry just as quick. I have loads of it before I convinced myself to buy HHS2000 because of Tom's amazing chain and sprocket life.

I'll probably use it at some point. It's a great lube for bicycle chains and is my go to for my mountain bike.
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When people give chain lube advice and mention which chain lube they like the best, I like to ask why.

To me chain life is the most important factor. In a poll I did here years ago it came out that most chains lasted around 20,000 to 25,000 miles and it didn't seem to matter what lube they used. In some cases riders got the same life using no lube. Riders that lubed a lot, typically with auto chain oilers, reported much greater chain life.

I have never used a chain oiler but lube with every fill up and after every ride in the rain. I use Wurth HHS2000. Since doing that My chains have lasted way longer than what most get. The chain on my 2015 DL1000 currently had 85,814 km / 53,322 miles on the last fillup. It will most likely be replaced when I change my rear tire. This should be somewhere in the next 6,000 or 7,000 km / 3,500 to 4,000 miles.


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Whenever this comes up you fail to mention that you change the front sprocket about halfway through.

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