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post #1 of 17 Old 03-16-2019, 06:01 AM Thread Starter
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I have a 1950 TO30 Ferguson tractor. Was using a Fram c134pl cartridge filter, went to TSC for a new one and was told they were no longer stocking any of Fram filters. Reason being they had developed an appetite for engines. Same story at three different stores. The only place who still had any Fram's was Wallyworld. First I heard about poor quality, been using their product since first car. Must have been a new Chinese acquisition. I thought the other Stromers might need a heads up. Tractor safe, I mean ride safe.🏍💨
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post #2 of 17 Old 03-16-2019, 09:26 AM
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Ive heard about issues with FRAM spin-on filters for years. First Ive heard of problems with the cartridge type, though. Of course, some folks hear FRAM and think its all of them. I ran FRAM cartridge filters quite a bit on my Concours until I installed a spin on filter adapter kit. Had no issues with them.


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post #3 of 17 Old 03-16-2019, 10:25 AM
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I had a case of Fram cartridge filters for my airhead BMW's, they collapsed in operation. Haven't used a Fram since, maybe 15-20 years ago?
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Waaaaay back in trade school ('71) we took A/C, Fram, Purolotor, and Autolite(before Motorcraft) oil filters and using an exhaust tubing cutter, we removed the cans off the filters.
By far, the Fram fiters were, for lack of a better word, the CHEESIEST filters of the bunch. Cardboard end caps, with a length of "kite string" wrapped around the pleated filter area. The rest looked great by comparison.
Right then and there I decided from that point on it would be nothing but oem filters for me.
Maybe Fram is better now, no need for me to find out either way. I'm well-stocked with manufacturer's oil filters for the vehicles in my household.

"Yeah, but with a K&N they have this little "Hex Thingy" on the end of the filter--you can take it off with a wrench!!!"
Weird...I have these things called "oil filter cup wrenches" that I can use ratchets and extensions on, in addition to all my other universal oil filter wrenches I've accumulated through the years.
Works for me.
In the cars, it was always a sh*t-show when a customer's car came in on a tow hook with a blown or missing oil filter and a seized engine, the oil filter either installed by a quick-lube shop or the customer himself. 1st thing they say is.."My car is under warranty!" Not so fast, Hoss! Then the game began between the quick-lube shop, our dealership, and the customer. Yes, some were installation issues( left loose, or not removing a stuck-on gasket from the previous filter), and some were just poor quality filters.
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post #5 of 17 Old 03-17-2019, 10:27 AM
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Fram definitely isn't any better now, in fact I'm pretty sure the low end orange cans are worse than they ever were. And their cartridge filters that I'm seeing on a seems like weekly basis are terrible have yet to see one come out that still looks like a filter. I stopped using them in the late 90's when I had one leak that the base plate seam. Never looked back and nothing I own will ever have another.

But a Wix/Napa gold, K&N and sleep easy
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Griff, that sure is a picture for the ages.
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Ditto on the Fram hate. My NAPA shop has a display of 4 filters cut away and pointers on the components. One look and brief read and you will never buy another Fram filter. What is the point in saving 4 dollars and risking your engine???
BTW, K&N doesn't make a single oil filter. They are Wix or HiFlo with a new logo. Save your bucks on that. Not on Fram.
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Coach, there are other aspects to this: 1) Many believe that anything oem is inferior to anything aftermarket.
2)There is an assumption that "Partz iz Partz"
3) Ive run into many owners that spend thousands on aftermarket exhaust, suspension pieces, mini-turn signals, windscreens, rims, all kinds of sh, er, I mean FARKLES....then ask me where they can get an oil filter for 3 bucks.
It's hard to keep a straight face at times...
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They are Wix or HiFlo with a new logo. Save your bucks on that. Not on Fram.
For the ease of the nut plate that I don't have to find another filter socket or wrench I'll take the rebrand wix/k&n but that's just me being lazy...lol
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