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post #1 of 31 Old 08-18-2018, 08:33 PM Thread Starter
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2014 Vee, Front fork axle problem

I installed a set of Michelin Anakee Wild tires on the bike this today, nobody had my preferred tire available. Getting the bike buttoned up, the only thing I am having a problem with is getting the front axle shaft to seat fully. This is not the first time I have changed tires on this bike but this IS the first time I have run into this problem. I have had the front apart so many times that I could do it blind folded but I am obviously missing something here. I did do a Google search and then searched the archives here with no luck. Any help will be much appreciated because I ride this bike daily.
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post #2 of 31 Old 08-19-2018, 09:46 AM
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Try seating the axle (bolt) into the forks before fitting the wheel. Everything work ok? No, https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/oem-schematic/2, have you released the axle pinch bolts on the one fork (side where the nut goes on)? If yes, then see if the axle hangup is due to the wheel bearing or bearing spacer. If all are OK, then you should be able to turn the axle without any issue. Unless the axle is damaged... then it would fail either or steps 1 or 2.
Perhaps a pix of what is going wrong can help give advice.
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I took it BACK apart as you suggested and tried the axle in both the forks and the wheel, no problems. Then with the axle still in the wheel I moved it between the forks and it measures the same when mounted with about 1/2" exposed an the left and only 1/4" of thread on the right. It still doesn't seam right but I put it back together. The Axle nut is 1/2" deep and there is still 1/4" of thread left when everything is torqued to speck.
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Guit, I just looked at my '14 DL1K. The front axle comes in from the left, and when seated the Allen hed of the axle is flush with the outer surface of the fork. The axle threads extend 1/4" beyond the axle nut.
Look at your your spacers and how thery seat between the wheel bearing and fork, and how they slide on the axle itself.
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Guit, I just looked at my '14 DL1K. The front axle comes in from the left, and when seated the Allen hed of the axle is flush with the outer surface of the fork. The axle threads extend 1/4" beyond the axle nut.
Look at your your spacers and how thery seat between the wheel bearing and fork, and how they slide on the axle itself.
What you just described is how I remember it is supposed to be. The spacers, as I have them now, fit into the bearing dust seal with the flange out and against the forks both sides. I did have to replace one that I had lost because I stupidly left them in the wheel when I went to the shop. I compared it with the old one and didn't see any difference. I even swapped them side to side in case there was a difference.
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I have looked and looked but I can not see what the problem is. i was thinking that there might have been a difference in the bushings but the shop manual does not differentiate and the dealer only had the one part number for both sides. The axle stops at the bushing because of the shoulder on it, what am I missing? I am afraid to ride it now and it is my daily mode of transportation now because we are down two vehicles, not that I ever drove the cars anyways.
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Yes, it looks like the same space is used on both sides. Any chance that the spacer is not seating all the way? Perhaps the wheel bearing isn't fully seated? My spacers are buffed smooth by the gasket and it is clear to see if they are all the way in.

Also, if the wheel shifts too far between the forks you will likely get a ton of brake drag. Have you noticed anything like that happen?

Any chance there is something inside the pocket where the large end of the axle goes through the fork that would hold it out from being flush? Rock?
Debris? Washer? The "lost spacer"? Etc? Will the axle set in flush without the tire?

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My thinking now is that there was never a spacer on the left hand side of the axle shaft. There are two rings on the end of the shaft that look like they could have been worn in buy a bearing so I'm thinking that the actual big end of the axle on the left hand side is the spacer. The mount that I am short on the nut side of the axle is about the thickness of that second space so if I remove that everything should line up properly.
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You have a spacer on both sides:

SPACER, FRONT AXLE
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https://www.babbittsonline.com/oempa...bb/front-wheel

If the forks are not sucked up against them, then get a ratchet strap and pull them together, then tighten the axle, then the pinch bolt. I don't know why this happens, but it has happend on my DL650.

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Gentlemen, there is a discrepancy between the online microfisches and the factory Suzuki Service manual.
The online 'fisches show the spacer as quantity 1, not 2, yet the line drawing shows 2 spacers, item # 6.
Also, my Suzuki Factory Service Manual for the DL1000A shows, from the left: Front Axle->Oil Seal->Bearing->Collar(spacer between the bearings)->Bearing->Oil Seal->Collar( your spacer)-> Nut.
Simply, it appears you have a spacer on the left side that doesnt belong there. The Allen side of the front axle is machined to perform the same duty as a spacer.
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