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post #1 of 18 Old 06-17-2018, 02:36 PM Thread Starter
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New, better, cheaper personal airconditioner

I had to pass up riding yesterday because it was too hot. Heat index of 98. Also too humid for an evaporative cooling vest.

So today I started looking at designing/building a personal air conditioner. Then I found this.

https://www.miclimate.net/technology/

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post #2 of 18 Old 06-17-2018, 04:02 PM
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I had to pass up riding yesterday because it was too hot. Heat index of 98. Also too humid for an evaporative cooling vest.

So today I started looking at designing/building a personal air conditioner. Then I found this.

https://www.miclimate.net/technology/

Deposit made. I'll update as this progresses.
I too generally give up riding around here for the hot part of the year. Nice mornings though which I reserve for a bicycle usually. Mountains here are much cooler though then you need to return and it can be brutal even with mesh gear. I have trailered to cooler climes. A favorite is Nova Scotia.
I'm sure there is interest in you 'air conditioner'.

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Color me skeptical when it comes to these neat gizmos that production is just around the corner. Consider Elio Motors...how many years have they been close to production? I would buy one tomorrow for $7500 if they were in stores, but does anyone believe you'll be seeing them driving around any time soon? Hope it works out positively - keep us updated.
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Warm air rises, cold air descends. Granted, there is a blower, but I doubt it will be powerful enough thru the entire circumference to reach the exit around the neck as stated in the site. But, if it keeps the core cool, the body should stay cooler.

This would be completely ineffective if wearing an air-flow type mesh jacket.
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How about one of these - only $1,116 but at least it exists and for an extra $15 comes with a 12v DC power cord.
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What ever happened to the EntroSys Bikeair product?
Motorcycle Air Conditioning by EntroSys

The site says they've "begun limited sales" but the link to their US distributor is dead.

If it's a good day to wash the bike, it's a better day to ride the bike.
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How about one of these - only $1,116 but at least it exists and for an extra $15 comes with a 12v DC power cord.
Cooling Vest + Backpack = Complete Personal Cooling System - Veskimo Personal Cooling Systems
For $1100 I was expecting some kind of high-tech, thermo-electric Peltier heat exchanger...seems pricey for just circulating ice water (which you provide) through a vest.

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What ever happened to the EntroSys Bikeair product?
Motorcycle Air Conditioning by EntroSys

The site says they've "begun limited sales" but the link to their US distributor is dead.
From the looks of the thing I think that they didn't sell enough and re-branded as a CPAP for sleep apnea.

AS long as my bike is moving I seem to be comfortable. Only time I really felt hot was in full gear riding through the MOAB a couple of years ago in one of the hottest Junes they'd had in a long time. Within 2 minutes of stopping I was cooking.
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For $1100 I was expecting some kind of high-tech, thermo-electric Peltier heat exchanger...seems pricey for just circulating ice water (which you provide) through a vest.
FWIW, I developed my own low-tech solution along this line. On really hot days, I fill up my Camelback with ice, top it off with water, then wear it backwards (putting the pack against my chest) under my riding jacket. On really hot days, I refill it during rest/gas/food stops.

This provides the double benefit of:
1) Having something cool against my core. If the Camelback sweats, all the better -- then I get the additional benefit of evaporative cooling.
2) I have ice water to drink throughout the day.

One note on this idea. A buddy of mine liked my approach and thought he'd go one better; he filled his Camelback the night before and stuck it in the freezer. He figured it would last longer that way. While I appreciated his ingenuity, I pointed out he was essentially strapping a rock to his rib cage -- not something I'd be comfortable with if I went down and landed on my chest.

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From the looks of the thing I think that they didn't sell enough and re-branded as a CPAP for sleep apnea.
It's admittedly a bit bulky, but I'd be willing to put up with it if I could pipe 60-degree air into my riding jacket on those 90+ days.
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