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post #1 of 7 Old 12-20-2017, 03:34 PM Thread Starter
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650 minimum oil volume

Do any techies out there know what the minimum safe volume of oil would be required for a 650 to avoid engine internal damage in the event of a seal failure or cracked case or field replacement after drowning.
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post #2 of 7 Old 12-20-2017, 04:04 PM
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All ways change my pwn oil in every thing I own. Am 71 so owned some motorcycles,cars,and trucks that used a bit and some a lot. The only time I fill one to the top of stick with oil is if it uses oil and most the time not then unless going a long ways. Machine floor for 27 years makes me all ways think mean so go for half between add and full at change time. My 011 Wee got new in 012 now has 61,000 and never had to add between changes. On trips may go over 5,000 before a change most the time 3,500 is when its changed.In a event like you post would feel safe with anything the oil light did not come on.Usually any where you can find gas you can find oil. Have never been in that shape but have not rode dirt near as much as some of my friends in the last 55 years.
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There is no hard limit on volume or time much less level of damage. Run low oil for long and heat becomes a problem as the oil can't do a proper job of cooling some parts. Oil cools as well as lubricates. One thing for sure though. If the oil gets below the pump pickup so oil pressure disappears, you'll start getting damage in short order. If the oil pressure light comes on, stop ASAP.

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I don't know the limit, but 2l should be safe even with the filter emptied, I did have oil loss problems on my K6 650 and had to put in near 500ml a couple of times, apart from what I think were already worn valve stems running that low didn't seem to do any additional damage. Pretty sure you need more than 1l. Oil pickup, but also the clutch is splash lubed and the stator splash cooled.

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The dozen old coots I ride with all have at least two bikes most of us more. KLR and 650 Wee the most common and have been owned by most all of us. The KLR big single does seem to use a bit of oil with age more than the stroms that seem to do well a long long time.
I was under the feeling from a few classes and lots of reading that over fill can cause foaming that has its own bad thing can happen stuff?
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Reading between the lines in the owners manual regarding oil warning lights it seems you are not at too much risk as long as no warning lights are coming on while riding.
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I was under the feeling from a few classes and lots of reading that over fill can cause foaming that has its own bad thing can happen stuff?
It'd have to be seriously overfilled to cause problems. If it's that full you can simply take to fill plug out and tip it over to lose some. In terms of the OP's original question, I think carrying 2l would be 'enough', though in the case of a drowning another oil change as soon as you got home would be advisable. Better still drown a 2-stroke instead, those things are seriously robust WRT being flooded.
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