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post #1 of 11 Old 09-16-2017, 10:35 PM Thread Starter
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Yet More Loose Magnets!

Hey guys,

K3 DL1000 w/58,000 miles.

Just swapped my R/R with a nice series unit from Jack at Roadstercycle. Bike still tested at 12.6v running, so I pulled the stator cover, and behold- all the magnets are snuggled up to one another. None were broken. I cleaned them all off and stuck them back in, oriented the way they had been when I took them out, and then placed a small amount of real JB Weld (not the 5 minute stuff) between each, not very much at all, maybe 1-2mm tall and a few mm thick in each space. HOWEVER- I forgot to "glue" them in place as many of the threads here say to do!

Question 1- should I remove the magnets and glue them in and then redo the JB Weld?

Question 2- what should I use for glue?

Question 3- how much JB Weld is enough? I made sure that the JB Weld didn't creep too far up the sides of the magnets, and ensured it wasn't on the inside surface where it might contact the stator, but the amount that I placed between the magnets was very small, just a light Q-Tip's worth. Is that sufficient?

Thanks in advance, as always, friends!

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post #2 of 11 Old 09-16-2017, 11:15 PM
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That should do it. The magnets stick to the rotor by magnetic force and they won't climb over the JB- Weld.

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This place is good for know how. I am sure not a great wrench by a long shot but try to do most my own and have done a little for friends. Elc. is my weak spot and all advice welcome.
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You should be fine the way you done it. Early on in the "JB Weld" fix many owners would put a layer under the magnets. That caused problems. If you don't squeeze about all of it out ( which is not all that easy ) then the magnets would catch on the stator poles. Not good.

Since then there have been many that just cleaned things up and built a bridge between the magnets with JB Weld. Just try to get a fairly equal amount between them. I know of no failures when done correctly to start with.

I would do this to a brand new rotor before installing it.
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Thank you, Pat and Terry! Also- I may or may not have covered up the rotor holes with the magnets rather than leaving them open. I'm assuming this also isn't a problem, as the holes had been covered for who knows how long since the magnets all bunched up, but I might as well ask here rather than risk some epic failure down the road!

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The only problem I can imagine with that is if the amounts of epoxy are so irregularly spaced as to put the rotor out of balance.
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The holes are not even in the replacement rotors. No worries.
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Thanks again. I scraped off the old gasket yesterday (my least favorite part in all of my mechanicking journeys), spread some gasket seal on both sides of the new gasket, put it on, and let it cure. Got home tonight and loaded it up with oil and installed the sprocket cover and clutch slave cylinder. Oddly, there were two small dowel pins whose origin I was unsure of sitting on the ground. The main dowel pin in the stator cover was in, as were the two for the sprocket cover. I installed the slave cylinder, but found that the lower, longer bolt would not rest securely against the slave cylinder, so that when I pulled the clutch, it would pop out a bit. I used one of these dowel pins as a spacer against the head of the bolt so that it would hold it down securely. I don't remember doing this when I changed the front sprocket a few years ago...

Now, for the fun part. Battery with bike off showed 12.05 volts. Bike fired right up, showed 14.5 volts (vs 12.6 before I rearranged and JB Welded the magnets). After a few minutes of idling, I shut the bike off, and the battery was at 13 volts- awesome. However, the bike does NOT want to rev above 7.5k RPM! Taking it up there results in a serious hiccup and the lost of a thousand RPMs before it picks back up.

My first thought was that the ECU/Power Commander may have been wonky from the low voltage and now that it's back up to normal voltage it's pushing too much fuel into the cylinders... very confusing. It didn't have this problem a few weeks ago when I started on the project.

Anyone have any ideas on this?

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Disconnect the power commander.....Its an 03 and would likely be a good idea to check fuel flow test from the pump.
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See the appropriate sticky threads at Fuel Injection

The fuel flow test and external fuel filter mod may be especially on point.
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Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 DL1000s. Vee2=2014-2016 DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 DL650s. Glee = 2012-2016 DL650s
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