Dead electrics - Stromtrooper Forum : Suzuki V-Strom Motorcycle Forums
Maintenance How-to WARNING! If you follow these posts and something goes wrong - Stromtroopers is not responsible for any damages, etc. You assume all risk.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 12 Old 06-21-2014, 05:20 PM Thread Starter
Stromthusiast!
Junior Trooper
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 4
Question Dead electrics

Went to start my bike the other day, key in the ignition and the dials sweep as normal, press starter button and the bike goes dead. Turn key off and on again, nothing! Lights don't work, dials don't move. The only thing which does still work is the clock.
I have checked the main fuses and the two extra fuses under the clear plastic cover and they are all ok. The battery is plugged into an optimate all the time and looks healthy when checked with voltmeter.
What should I check next???
dreadycraig is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 12 Old 06-21-2014, 05:46 PM
FORUM GODFATHER.....R.I.P. PAT
 
greywolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Evanston IL USA
Posts: 38,049
Garage
The usual remedy is to clean and tighten the connections of the large battery wires. The connections to the battery itself are the usual culprits. There is a huge difference between passing enough current to activate a voltmeter and enough to run the bike. It happened to me about a month after I got my present bike. I just tightened the battery terminals and it's been fine for two years.

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 DL1000s. Vee2=2014-2016 DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 DL650s. Glee = 2012-2016 DL650s
See https://www.stromtrooper.com/general-...nicknames.html

Please vote in the poll on what Strom(s) you have at https://www.stromtrooper.com/informat...-you-have.html
greywolf is offline  
post #3 of 12 Old 06-23-2014, 05:24 PM Thread Starter
Stromthusiast!
Junior Trooper
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 4
Thanks. I tried it but it didn't work. Still dead as a dodo. Has anyone got any other suggestions?
dreadycraig is offline  
 
post #4 of 12 Old 06-23-2014, 06:06 PM
Stromthusiast!
 
gryphon51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Surrey BC
Posts: 1,215
Dissassemble and clean starter switch, open and check electrical connection behind the radiator, under the left front cowl, swear. kick bike....


bout all I got....

2009 DL1000\ Scorpion Racing Skid Plate, Racetech Springs, Acerbis Hand Guards, Givi Engine Guards
Oxford Grips,
ALL BALLS BEARINGS.....Darkside Tire
gryphon51 is offline  
post #5 of 12 Old 06-23-2014, 06:20 PM
FORUM GODFATHER.....R.I.P. PAT
 
greywolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Evanston IL USA
Posts: 38,049
Garage
The next step is to check for voltage from the battery through the electrical system to find where the voltage stops registering.

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 DL1000s. Vee2=2014-2016 DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 DL650s. Glee = 2012-2016 DL650s
See https://www.stromtrooper.com/general-...nicknames.html

Please vote in the poll on what Strom(s) you have at https://www.stromtrooper.com/informat...-you-have.html
greywolf is offline  
post #6 of 12 Old 07-03-2014, 04:08 PM Thread Starter
Stromthusiast!
Junior Trooper
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 4
Well, what I have found out so far.
I played around yesterday trying to track down where the problem was, checked voltage on battery when started, 13v, good. Ignition on for 20-30 mins whilst stripping off electric start and following cables, checked battery again, nothing, dammit!
Got my brother in law round tonight and pinched the battery off his SV1000, started mine no probs, not a problem with the electrics then.
Swapped my battery back in and bump started it (damn that's hard work, took two of us pushing to get it started), got it stated but it doesn't seem to generating enough juice to power the bike electrics, the lights dim when revved and the dials go loopy.
Thinking it might be the alternator or maybe the battery?
dreadycraig is offline  
post #7 of 12 Old 07-05-2014, 01:27 PM
Stromthusiast!
 
Texas Oilman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 538
Dead electrics

Quote:
Originally Posted by dreadycraig View Post
Well, what I have found out so far.

...
....

Thinking it might be the alternator or maybe the battery?

Just go buy a new battery and see what it does. If his battery worked fine for yours, then I'm sure your battery is fried. The charging system on these bikes is very touchy; when you have a battery that doesn't charge or has a bad cell, It allows the voltage spikes to travel through the entire electrical system. Your computer detects these spikes and shuts the electronics down to protect the circuits, the battery is your bike's capacitor.

Go get a new battery and see what happens then.



Sent from Motorcycle.com Free App
Texas Oilman is offline  
post #8 of 12 Old 07-05-2014, 01:34 PM
FORUM GODFATHER.....R.I.P. PAT
 
greywolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Evanston IL USA
Posts: 38,049
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Oilman View Post
Jyour computer detects these spikes and shuts the electronics down to protect the circuits
That doesn't happen. The ECM doesn't have that capacity. There is a theory a bad battery can lead to stator burn out because a lack of battery buffering can cause the regulator to shunt excess power into the stator. It's only a theory, but bad things can happen if a battery is not doing its job. Get the battery load tested or just replace it if it's old and you have the money. With a known good battery, put a voltmeter on the bike when you ride it and see if it shows over 13.5V over 3000 rpm. If not, your charging system has a problem such as a burned out stator or loose magnets.

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 DL1000s. Vee2=2014-2016 DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 DL650s. Glee = 2012-2016 DL650s
See https://www.stromtrooper.com/general-...nicknames.html

Please vote in the poll on what Strom(s) you have at https://www.stromtrooper.com/informat...-you-have.html

Last edited by greywolf; 07-05-2014 at 01:38 PM.
greywolf is offline  
post #9 of 12 Old 07-05-2014, 01:43 PM
Stromthusiast!
 
Texas Oilman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 538
Quote:
Originally Posted by greywolf View Post
That doesn't happen. The ECM doesn't have that capacity. There is a theory a bad battery can lead to stator burn out because a lack of battery buffering can cause the regulator to shunt excess power into the stator. It's only a theory, but bad things can happen if a battery is not doing its job. Get the battery load tested or just replace it if it's old and you have the money. With a known good battery, put a voltmeter on the bike when you ride it and see if it shows over 13.5V over 3000 rpm. If not, your charging system has a problem such as a burned out stator or loose magnets.

You're right greywolf, still in my automotive mindset. Nevertheless, these electrical systems are sensitive and a bad battery is one of the biggest culprits to electrical issues, like you said, check the charging first with known good battery. Batteries are an easy problem to solve.


Sent from Motorcycle.com Free App
Texas Oilman is offline  
post #10 of 12 Old 07-06-2014, 03:15 PM
Stromthusiast!
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Austin Texas area
Posts: 117
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreadycraig View Post
Got my brother in law round tonight and pinched the battery off his SV1000, started mine no probs, not a problem with the electrics then.

Thinking it might be the alternator or maybe the battery?
Put the SV1000 battery back in it, start the bike, check the voltage. Should be 14-15. Run the bike until the fan comes on and check the voltage again. If your charging system is marginal the voltage could be dropping at operating temps.
Moe Trsyklist is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Stromtrooper Forum : Suzuki V-Strom Motorcycle Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome