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View Poll Results: What was the condition of your rotor magnets when your stator failed?
All magnets appeared equally spaced and glue bond intact 9 47.37%
1 or more magnets were loose and had moved 4 21.05%
1 or more magnets were found shattered 5 26.32%
Did not look for unequal spacing between magnets 1 5.26%
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post #1 of 13 Old 11-26-2014, 07:12 AM Thread Starter
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Poll on failed Stator vs. Rotor Magnet Condition

I thought it might be interesting to find out how many of you that experienced a failed stator (burned or otherwise failed) found problems with rotor magnets coexistent with the failure.

I am wondering if possibly loose magnets might actually be a root cause of premature stator failure either because the stator gets hotter with the magnets being shifted or because the loose magnet shifted enough to make contact with the stator and shatter the magnet(s).

I did not vote because my stator did not fail yet but I discovered a loose magnet and began to wonder if I am preempting a failure by proactive magnet repair

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I wish there was a way to add whether you have a 1000 or a 650. While there are stator failures on 650's, they also outsell the 1000 by a large amount. The 650 doesn't suffer from magnet failures. I think the 1000 stator failure rate is exponentially higher than on the 650 and in that fact I think the magnets might be a part of the cause.

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Stromtrooper Forum : Suzuki V-Strom Motorcycle Forums - View Poll Results shows some magnet problems on 650s though not nearly as many as on Vees.

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Would still like to see electrical acc. vs non electrics factored. :beatnik:

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Burnt out a stator at about 40k miles. All the magnets were right where they were supposed to be. I added some JB weld between them anyway in the hopes that I could avoid a magnet glue failure. That was 1.5-2 years and 25k miles ago. So far no loose magnets or burnt out stators.
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BDK generator is another (and very expensive) option.
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post #7 of 13 Old 12-31-2014, 12:31 AM
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Catastrophic rotor magnet failure

I have an 05 DL1000 V with 29K miles. Battery failed and stator tested low so I ordered a new one from Caltric for $80 (Suzi wants $330!!!). Thought I was good to go until I opened the case and found all but one magnet loose, one fractured and one disintegrated with magnet grinds thruout stator case, probably in crankcase. Yuck. Looks like a major cleanup and repair with who knows what collateral damage.

I don't know if I can get replacement magnets or I have to buy an OEM at extortionist price. Seems like inexcusably poor engineering or worse, planned obsolescence to me. Not happy; wishing I'd bought a Honda.

Any advice (besides buy a Honda)?
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post #8 of 13 Old 12-31-2014, 08:34 PM
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Well I'm sorry to say you can't buy the magnets separately. So your options are a new one from Suzuki or maybe you get lucky and find a used one. Either way I'd add some extra JB weld on the new rotor to hold the magnets in place.
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used parts source

You could try this guy:
https://www.stromtrooper.com/sale/233...-part-out.html

Few months back another trooper was putting up a "parts" rotor kit which contained some unbroken magnets.

You could try posting in the WTB.

In any case, suggest you follow previous suggestion to fill the gaps between magnets with JB weld even if you decide to go with new rotor.

Stock design is flawed IMO but the JB weld between magnets should be a forever fix if done before the failure can occur.

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You will probably want to pull the clutch side cover and remove the oil screen in there to check for debris. It is right under the clutch basket assembly. Might be hard for a magnet particle to migrate that far without sticking to the rotor body but good insurance to check anyway for the price of a gasket.

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