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post #3261 of 3342 Old 03-06-2019, 01:21 PM
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This year we have had such a brutal winter. The temperature swings regularly from -15 to -5 over the course of a day. There has been so many freeze-thaw cycles that there is about a foot of ice built up behind my garage door and all the way up and down my alley. At each thaw, the water melting at my garage door has nowhere to go so water has leaked under my garage door, and then freezes when the temp drops again, turning my garage into a skating rink. The center stand of my Vee is frozen down, in about an inch of ice INSIDE my garage. Everything on the floor like my floor jack, jack stands, materials leaning against the wall etc. is frozen down on the floor in ice.

I did do some work out there two weekends ago, I put down cardboard so I wouldn't slip and fall. I ran the space heater the entire time I was out there, about 4 hours, and the ice didn't even start to melt.
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post #3262 of 3342 Old 03-06-2019, 02:14 PM
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You need a salamander heater....I'd go diesel or Kero:

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...BoCkckQAvD_BwE
That thing is huge, I only have a small single car garage. I am constantly trying to think of ways to heat my garage without resorting to something costly. I only want to heat it while I am out there, sometimes I go a couple weeks without having the time to work on my projects so it would be a waste to heat it for weeks on end with no occupancy. I really don't mind working in the cold, so keeping it somewhere just above freezing while I am out there, and warming up my tools so they are usable would be perfectly acceptable. In the city, burning wood is illegal, so any wood stove is out of the question. I thought about making a waste oil heater, I have friends that do this and use their old oil change oil for heat. This would be nice, but I don't know if it's really the right solution for me.

Of course a big part of the problem is the small garage with too much stuff in it. I don't have an open corner or wall space to put any kind of permanent heater in. Another and probably the biggest part is that I am a cheap ass, so simply installing proper electric heating or running a propane heater etc. isn't attractive to my brain. Burning garbage/waste oil/pallets would be ideal if I can find a way to do it cleanly without pissing off my neighbours and getting a fine.

Until then, I'll just keep wearing ski gloves and putting cardboard on the floor.

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Vanislejay, M7,
When we moved into our present home 35+ years ago, my father-in-law gave me a salamander to use.
1st thing...it was louder'n'hell, 2) it sucked all the O2 out of the air, and 3) made my garage smell like a Bi-Sate bus terminal. NO THANKS!!!
I found a warehouse going out of business, and for $200 I bought a year-old 75K Btu hanging gas furnace. 20 ft of black-iron pipe, 2 shut-off valves and unions, a simple wall-mounted thermostat, some angle iron, 3/8" studs and nuts, and a roof chimney I was in business. I keep my 2.5+ car garage at a minimum of 50 degrees F, and at 10 degrees outside I get a degree-a-minute rise. When working I keep the t-stat set to 70.
But...
I was at a former coworkers house last week dealing with a Ford Focus/key issue and noticed in his 5-car garage he had an electric heater mounted in the upper ceiling corner. It was about 12" X 12" X 10" with integral blower...and it KICKED ASS!!! outside temp was in the 20s, and this little heater easily kept the garage warm. I'm waiting for a call back for brand and details.
Get some years on you, lose some circulation, and see how using your hands in a cold garage works out for you.
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At the Chicago Bike Show 3 weeks ago I finally bought spools for my '14 DL1K. Pitbull Black Delrin, 8mm Allen bolts.
Last year at the same vendor I was told that my existing Pitbull Front Fork Stand wasnt tall enough for the Vstrom, and that I needed to purchase the new height-adjustable stand from them. I declined.
This year, at the Pitbull booth I told them of my wanting a Pitbull stand for the Vstrom, told them what I have, that I didnt want yet another stand(I have5), and their guy called the Pitbull general manager. I was told my existing stand would work with the #12 pin, which, along with the spools, bought from them at a much-reduced price. The I was told that if the #12 pin didnt work, call them and they would send me a #12TALL pin FREE, that I could keep the #12 pin. 3 days later in the mail Pitbull sends me the #12TALL pin, a catalog, and a T-shirt in my size. The #12TALL pin works like a champ, and the catalog and shirt are just icing on the cake.
As with my previous dealings with Pitbull, their customer service is 2nd to none.
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post #3265 of 3342 Old 03-06-2019, 03:25 PM
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Get some years on you, lose some circulation, and see how using your hands in a cold garage works out for you.
That is a good point. I'm pulling a dedicated 60A 240V circuit and installing a sub panel this summer, installing a heater like the one you mentioned would be an easy add on. Not the cheapest solution, but probably the easiest.

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Van, I really like my gas furnace. But, with an electric you dont have to worry about ventilation, piping gas, pilot light or auto-ignition issues. Youre going to use electric anyway to operate the heating unit's fan no matter what the heating power source is. The electric heater is much quieter in operation as well, and there is no flame involved. I mention this as I have my riding lawn mower directly below my heater. If you dont have one, check out Grainger.com or get one of their catalogs.
In my Mazda dealership's former building we had gas ceramic-block heaters, gave off a radiant heat with no fans or blowers involved. But man, those puppies sucked gas like no tomorrow.
If I were doing my garage in '19 instead of '84 when I did I'd probably go the electric route based on what Ive seen.
And I wasnt joking about loss of circulation. My hands and feet get cold, they stay cold a long time. As a diabetic(under control) these things weigh into my decisions more and more. Years ago Id rebuild engines in an open carport, sneak inside to warm up once an hour. NO WAY Id even think about doing that now.

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I wasn't being sarcastic when I mentioned that getting older was something important to consider. I'm only 40 but I know I can't wrench is weather like I could 20 years ago, and I don't plan to stop wrenching or move anytime soon, I might as well set up for the long haul.

My only issue with the electric is that it's not getting heat from something free or cheap like scrap wood, used oil etc. Electric certainly makes the most sense, but but my brain LOVES the allure of doing something really complicated and time wasting to get something for virtually nothing money wise. Even I don't get it sometimes, time is unquestionably the rarest and most valuable thing in my life, but I still can't bring myself to buy something I can build. It's often very annoying.

Also LOL I don't even pay the hydro bill, in the division of bills, that one is on my partner's side.

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You have it lucky in Montreal with electricity. I heat an 1,100 sq feet shop with electricity in Toronto because it is all I can get there. I use two tiny ceramic heaters on timers to keep it at around 48f when I am not there. When I am there I can go full meltdown blast with two unit heaters and a heat pump/AC system. Probably costs a fortune to run (most expensive electrcity in NA because of failed Green energy projects). I do have good insulation.

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You have it lucky in Montreal with electricity. I heat an 1,100 sq feet shop with electricity in Toronto because it is all I can get there. I use two tiny ceramic heaters on timers to keep it at around 48f when I am not there. When I am there I can go full meltdown blast with two unit heaters and a heat pump/AC system. Probably costs a fortune to run (most expensive electrcity in NA because of failed Green energy projects). I do have good insulation.
If you have an 1100 sq ft shop in Toronto you can afford the heat haha (this is a very light hearted/tongue in cheek statement)


We certainly have cheap electricity in quebec. In the interest of keeping things civil, I won't share my opinions on how quebec got it's electricity.

I found a nice 240V 4800W heater on craigslist, looks like my search for heating the garage with garbage will be abated for now.

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I use a kerosene heater in my garage. Works great and when I'm in the shop it will keep it at 50-60 degrees when outside temps are 10-30. At 71 my hands still do alright above 50.

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