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post #1 of 20 Old 12-05-2006, 05:32 PM Thread Starter
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Question So, it's 24 degrees F outside....

....And I want to ride but own no electric clothing. Suggestions? Who rides in sub-freezing weather without electric undies? What do you layer with? FYI, I'm starting with an Olympia AST jacket and liner, Olympia Ranger 2 pants and liner, Alpinestars waterproof touring boots, and Olympia cold weather gloves. I do have heated grips and hand guards which really make a difference. Helmet is a Nolan N-102 which ain't bad in the cold. Not great (it still fogs a bit and has aan annoying draft on the chin).

If your suggestion is to break down and buy some electrics, what brand/model is recommended? Thanks for all suggestions.
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post #2 of 20 Old 12-05-2006, 05:46 PM
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I would imagine that your current gear is sufficeinet.

I rode in this morning it was 25 when I left for my 27 mile and 45 minute commute. Unfortunately this morning some brainiac decided to drop a suspicious package at the White house it took me an hour and a half of negotiating all of the closed roads to get in this morning (I was warm the entire time). Below is the gear I use and have no problem keeping warm. Unfortunately everyone’s tolerance to the cold is different so it may not be enough for you,

FieldSheer Hydro Tour 3/4 jacket with liner (and Columbia fleece vest for rides below freezing)
Joe Rocket Alter Ego pants with liner and removable vent panels installed
Sidi touring boots
Tour Master Winter Elite gloves
Turtle Fir balaclava
Respro breath guard (highly recommend this one)

Heated handgrips
Hand Guards

Keep warm

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post #3 of 20 Old 12-06-2006, 02:01 AM
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I rode in 22 degrees at 75mph+ for an extended time once w/o heated gear on the Strom (a bike w/no wind protection). Let me repeat ONCE. Long story why I didn't have my heated gear w/me. Can you do it? Oh, sure. But if you can swing for heated gear then it WILL make the difference in surving the ride and enjoying it.

As for specifics, I run Gerbings. Have heard positive reports from others but my choice has been and is Gerbings (jacket, gloves, dual controller). I have a pair of the G3 gloves (their lastest) but THANKFULLY have no report on whether they are indeed 100% waterproof.

Best wishes with whatever you choose.

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post #4 of 20 Old 12-06-2006, 08:40 AM
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Get a balaclava. I have a Turtlefur too. That seems to be the one piece of gear that you didn't mention that is a must for colder weather.

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post #5 of 20 Old 12-06-2006, 10:10 AM
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hello, former lurker here- I rode into work this morning in boston, in the low 20s, since I discovered my truck registration is long expired

ive found a couple of non-electric things that work well in the 20s and 30s. I like to hunt so ive spent years trying to stay warm without electric stuff.

I have several pairs of polypropelene underwear. the thinner blue silky stuff (mines from Wal-Mart, less than 20 bucks I think) makes a great base layer, make sure there's no cotton between you and it. I use that when its above 40,

When its colder, I use the same stuff except that I have a pair of Cabelas "ThermaStat Heavy-Weight". I had almost written the stuff off because if I wear it out walking, I'll melt within 20 minutes. On the bike, I'm perfect.

over that I put a 200 weight polarfleece pullover thing. I got one from "The North Face" as a gift but I looked at their prices and they seemed nuts to me. you can find the no name ones for like 25-30 bucks. I like the pullover since there's no zipper to leak air. the pfleece blocks wind really well and the neck fits tight to keep air from blowing down your neck.

cabelas also sells a polarfleece hood thing that scrunches down into a neck warmer for like 10-12 bucks. i wouldnt go anywhere without that.

With that stuff on, the only problem I've ever had is my hands and feet getting cold. I have grip heaters and hand guards but with plain leather gloves they aren't enough, even wide open. I would say thats going to be your number one problem in a non-electric situation.
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post #6 of 20 Old 12-06-2006, 04:52 PM
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I use a Joe Rocket Jacket with a liner and a cheep Walmart polar fleece pull-over. I also use a product simular to the Aerostich Wind Triangle that was made by Noj.

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post #7 of 20 Old 12-06-2006, 05:36 PM
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Carharts, a good wind breaker coat, good gloves and helmet is all you need. I rode a couple of mornings ago about an hour in 14 degree weather (wind chill was -1). North wind blowing 15 mph gusting to 28 mph. If I can keep my hands warm, I am ok.
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post #8 of 20 Old 12-06-2006, 05:55 PM
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you certainly can layer up to do the job and if you do it the
right way (many thinner, moister wicking) it will even work
to a degree but the problem is the longer you are going to ride and the colder it is, the more you going to feel like a little kid in a too-big snow suite. The nice thing about electric stuff is it is both warm and ALOT less bulky. The first thing I bought was an electric vest. It packs down to
a managable size in it's own zippered pocket and just plugs into your battery tender plug:

Next, heated gloves will make a huge difference. Again,
really thick gloves will help but the thicker they get the less feel/control you have. I use Gerbings:

With those two items I've been down the freeway in -10F
and been just fine. Then again, I am a bit nuts....
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post #9 of 20 Old 12-06-2006, 09:47 PM
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Call me a wimp, but when it gets below about 25F, I have a Subaru with a really nice heater that'll get me to/from work just fine..;-)

Above that temperature, my Olympic AST along with a polarfleece vest does well with no electrics, at least for commuting. I added knuckle guards earlier this Fall which has extended hand comfort considerably. HT overpants, wool socks, etc. help also. For longer trips, I'll add thermal underwear and warmer clothing but this just isn't practical for wearing to work.

I suppose some day I'll consider heated gear for touring purposes, but for local riding in the SE US, I can live without it.

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I use no electrics at all and have ridden to work in 7*F. Nitro Tour Master jacket w/liner, Fieldsheer Booster pants w/liner, Nitro boots with regular socks, thermal top/bottom, sweatshirt, & ski gloves. My finger tips do get cold but I just got a set of heated grips (still in the box) so I hope it helps. I wear a Windstopper ski mask under my helmet.
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