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post #1 of 26 Old 08-05-2012, 01:59 PM Thread Starter
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Riding Naked vs Dressed

I am talking about the diff between a naked V and a stock V. Nothing to do with clothing!!!

The last two seasons my 08 wee has had the front plastic / fairing removed. I did this since I was doing local rides chasing dual sport bikes and wanted to lighten the bike. I really enjoyed the increased clean air flow and the lighter throw weight. Removing the fairing/ headlights, frame etc pulled 30 pounds off and this is all up high and up front.

I picked up a CRF250X this season and this has filled my desire for off road riding.

Here is the bike in naked form, beside the CRF



I decided to replace the fairing for some road trips I have coming up. I also wanted to feel the difference. It took me about 1 1/2 hrs to pull the single headlight setup and install the fairing again.

Here is the bike back in dressed mode.



The bike feels noticeably heavier at slower speeds. I can feel that weight really wants to pull the bike around. Not a good feeling.

At speed however it feels great. The lack of air flow makes it quiet. I can hear that V twin much better now. I will reassess after the road trips but I will probably go back to the naked version.

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I thought this was going to be a thread about Bad Train Driver. I only saw him ride naked once and I've had to wear glasses ever since.

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Since you have ridden with the front end modified, try taking trips without your sidecases. Put your gear into dry bags of some kind, and strap them across the rear seat. You will be just as impressed with shedding your sidecases, as you were with shedding the OEM plastic and OEM headlights. All of the weight is carried right on the centerline of the bike. Very quick and maneuverable!

I have been riding in this fashion since 2009. I will not go back to sidecases. I can't go back to OEM plastic and headlights! That change was permanent!






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I have been riding in this fashion since 2009. I will not go back to sidecases. I can't go back to OEM plastic and headlights! That change was permanent!




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I've been riding naked for the last few weeks and I think I may be converted.
Light, very little buffeting, kind of cool looking.

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You will be just as impressed with shedding your sidecases, as you were with shedding the OEM plastic and OEM headlights. All of the weight is carried right on the centerline of the bike. Very quick and maneuverable!

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+1, in fact, I call the luggage "airbrakes." The Givis are at least somewhat aerodynamic; but even they create a lot of drag and impede performance. The crappy fit of the Givi racks doesn't help either; the bags stick out much further than they need to.

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I tried the semi-naked running for a while but couldn't come to grips with the cost of the single headlight set up so I went back to stock plastics. I did enjoy the air flow for the spring/summer temps, but didn't look forward to the colder days.

What did you use for your headlight mount?

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That's great work if you weld, but I don't. So, I was looking at bolt on brackets that I could use to switch between the two configurations; fork mounted headlight and modified turn signal mounts. I had resigned myself to creating a mount for the stock instument display and use a simple headlight cover to shield the electronics from complete exposure from the front. The entire project was looking like it would be in the neighborhood of $500 and I just chickened out on the price tag.

My objective was to loose the stock metal "tree" that houses the lights etc. That is where the weight savings would be, in my opinion, because I don't believe that the plastics would amount to much, until you completely remove the headlight assembly/bucket.

I had a lot of trouble finding the fork mounts for the odd sized strom tubes. I did find a retailer that offered kits for the headlight mount and assembly and thought that I could add some LEDs for turn signals. My plan was to buy some aluminum from Lowe's after prototyping the dash mount in card board.

But, as I said, I chickened out on the total cost of the project...

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The headlight assembly I used was from Aztec8 Motorcycle Conversion Headlight Kits

The brackets mount onto the forks. I had to build an aluminum dash to mount the gauges. The windscreen is a Givi universal which mounts to the headlight bolts. It works really well. Yes it is the metal bracket up front that carries most of the weight.














Not sure I agree with ditching the side cases. I will give it a try. Keeping the weight low and and to the centre is important. That is why I chose the Jesse cases due to the ability to move the weight forward. I am a minimalist camper and go very light weight on these trips. It helps that I have accumulated excellent backpacking / canoe tripping gear having worked for Outward Bound schools for 3 decades. It does bother me when I see riders with tons of gear strapped on their bikes and up high. Often a major contributing factor to drops on gravel roads.

Another reason why I prefer hard cases is bear protection for my food. I keep all food in one case and remove it from the bike at camp. It gets tied to a tree away from my tent and bike. A habituated bear associates campers with food and can do serious damage trying to get at it. I have never had a run in with with bears on a motorcycle trip but canoeing trips I have had many over the years. No food in the tent or anything sweet like toothpaste ever!!! Bear spray, bear bangers are always close by. More people less concern, I however am mostly alone.

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I like your build. That is exactly how I "saw" it in my imagination. Nice work. Thanks for sharing.

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