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post #1 of 15 Old 07-23-2012, 12:19 PM Thread Starter
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Wanted to change the DL650 oil so I went to the dealership and purchased oil, a filter, and a crush washer for the main drain plug. I did not replace the crush washer or filter since I figured I would when I got back from my road trip. When I returned I went back to the dealer for more oil, an extra oil filter, and another drain plug washer. The washer they provided me both times was a copper clad washer that did not look right, but what did I know. They insisted it was ok. So now I go to change the oil again (only this time it was not torqued by a shop gorilla) so it was not so hard to loosen, but when I tried to install the washer it was the wrong size (thankfully) so I used the old one for the third time. This time I knew for sure they were giving me the wrong part and this time they looked harder at their parts book and determined that the copper clad washer they gave me twice was for another plug. So they exchanged the two for the proper ones. Just a little heads up for those like me who do not yet have the experience needed to do a little maintenance. Now to the overfilling problem I discovered after a week of riding.

It seemed I measured the amount of oil I added (new filter was taken into account), but later I realized that I had overfilled the oil since the sight glass was full meaning I could not tell how much oil was in there. I bought something to remove some of the oil and ended up with a cheap siphon set up that did not work, however, instead of buying something else I determined I could just apply my own suction to the quarter inch plastic tube and so I cut an 18 inch length and spent a few minutes removing oil until I could see it at the level mark again. Old info I imagine, but it may be of use to someone besides myself.
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Loosen Oil Filter oil comes out

I am 64 still on my 1st crush washer
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Next oil change, you'll lop off at least 4-5 hours off your previous time!

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I took a cue from someone and put in 2 quarts and 24 ounces. Then I stand the bike up, measure, and put in little by little till it's in the middle (how's THAT for rhyming!)
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Wanted to change the DL650 oil so I went to the dealership and purchased oil, a filter, and a crush washer for the main drain plug. I did not replace the crush washer or filter since I figured I would when I got back from my road trip. When I returned I went back to the dealer for more oil, an extra oil filter, and another drain plug washer. The washer they provided me both times was a copper clad washer that did not look right, but what did I know. They insisted it was ok. So now I go to change the oil again (only this time it was not torqued by a shop gorilla) so it was not so hard to loosen, but when I tried to install the washer it was the wrong size (thankfully) so I used the old one for the third time. This time I knew for sure they were giving me the wrong part and this time they looked harder at their parts book and determined that the copper clad washer they gave me twice was for another plug. So they exchanged the two for the proper ones. Just a little heads up for those like me who do not yet have the experience needed to do a little maintenance. Now to the overfilling problem I discovered after a week of riding.
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It seemed I measured the amount of oil I added (new filter was taken into account), but later I realized that I had overfilled the oil since the sight glass was full meaning I could not tell how much oil was in there. I bought something to remove some of the oil and ended up with a cheap siphon set up that did not work, however, instead of buying something else I determined I could just apply my own suction to the quarter inch plastic tube and so I cut an 18 inch length and spent a few minutes removing oil until I could see it at the level mark again. Old info I imagine, but it may be of use to someone besides myself.
In a pinch, a "turkey baster" will work. You may have to slip a short section of hose on to the end of the baster tube.

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I tried to change the crush washer on my dl1k's plug last oil change and I couldn't even get it to separate from the bolt.

Ah well, I never changed it on the 650 and the bike... was wrecked by a truck. I'D BETTER CHANGE THAT WASHER

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I'll have to check the existing installed by dealership washer next time to see which side faces the bolt. Or maybe I replaced it the wrong way when I removed it then put it back on. As usual I have no one to blame but myself.

I like the way Black Lab has slimmed down the bike. I think I'm going to do the same thing and remove the side panels and black panel underneath and see how that works for me. I'm more interested in stability then looks anyways, and I like the lean look. I suspect the bodywork is what is causing me so much grief in the wind. If that doesn't do it for me then maybe I will go against my instincts and lower the front end a little as suggested by more than one rider. I did not find the wind and buffeting thread very useful, but I'm not complaining, I think.
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If you look behind the "main" drain plug, you'll see a second plug that takes a hex-head to remove it. That has a flat copper washer, and is probably what they gave you.

The mechanic at my local dealership (25 years, certified Master Mechanic for Yamaha, Suzuki, and Honda) made a pretty strong case for replacing the crush washer every time. He's not going to make a dime on how many washers the dealer sells, so I'm taking his advice and replacing it when I do my changes.

Go hakafugu yourself.

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If you look behind the "main" drain plug, you'll see a second plug that takes a hex-head to remove it. That has a flat copper washer, and is probably what they gave you.

The mechanic at my local dealership (25 years, certified Master Mechanic for Yamaha, Suzuki, and Honda) made a pretty strong case for replacing the crush washer every time. He's not going to make a dime on how many washers the dealer sells, so I'm taking his advice and replacing it when I do my changes.
While I agree that a new crush washer is ideal, I have reused those things all my life and never had an issue. Has more to do with how clean and seated you get the plug back on. Not too tight, not too lose. And take a peek after you have added a quart to see if it is leaking, etc.

While we are at it, I recommend Rotella T6 full synthetic for the Wee. Great stuff...

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I think the biggest reason besides the sealing of anew crusher washer is it helps get the proper torque on the drain plug. I know, I know a lot of folks do not use a torque wrench.

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