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post #1 of 27 Old 07-16-2012, 08:07 AM Thread Starter
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The parts guy at one of the m/c shops highly recommends Lucas Oil ethanol fuel conditioner, so I decided to try it. I guess it's no secret our fuel is very bad and has too much alcohol. I stopped using premium and went to regular with this conditioner. It requires one ounce per five gallons of fuel making it economical to use. The V runs great, better than ever !!! I'm not much on addatives, especially when someone is trying to sell me something but this stuff really works.
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Rodknocker, if you cannot show an increase in hp measured on a dyno, or a record of fuel mileage increases over a period of time, then your additive "improvements" are likely more in your mind than real. As much as some like to complain about gas, we really don't have much problem with it. Absolutely no reason to put an additive in your gasoline ( short of a stabilizer for LONG periods of storage ) as there are additives put in it when shipped to the gas station.

They could bottle regular grade 87 octane in the same bottle and the results would be.....the same. IMO of course.

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Rodknocker, if you cannot show an increase in hp measured on a dyno, or a record of fuel mileage increases over a period of time, then your additive "improvements" are likely more in your mind than real. As much as some like to complain about gas, we really don't have much problem with it. Absolutely no reason to put an additive in your gasoline ( short of a stabilizer for LONG periods of storage ) as there are additives put in it when shipped to the gas station.

They could bottle regular grade 87 octane in the same bottle and the results would be.....the same. IMO of course.
Why would more hp be the priority for using an addative? More hp who needs it !!! why it's all in your head in IMO. With all that hp who cares about fuel milage. I was hoping to improve the driveability issues common to the V. Remember curiousity is the mother of invention.
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Why would more hp be the priority for using an addative? More hp who needs it !!! why it's all in your head in IMO. With all that hp who cares about fuel milage. I was hoping to improve the driveability issues common to the V. Remember curiousity is the mother of invention.

more hp on a dyno would be the definitive measure of "is it really running better" or "a placebo in your head"



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more hp on a dyno would be the definitive measure of "is it really running better" or "a placebo in your head"
This may be a little off-topic, but some local Marathon stations are now offering 90 octane ethanol-free gasoline.

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FWIW - When filling up locally, cars and bike, I almost always get ethanol free gas. I DEFINITELY get better mileage.

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Only a few treatments out there are even worth a hoot "and do little to nothing", your best practice would be to fill up with the best gas you can find. Placebo affect is a powerful thing, many dealership employees are clueless......remember that.

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I look at additives, the same as vitamins. It's kind of a maintance thing for your body / bike / car / truck. It helps to keep bad things from happening to your fuel system / engine / body. Once something bad happens, too late for either. I don't use an additive everytime I fill up, just every 1000 miles or so. I do take vitamins daily, at my age I need all the help I can get.
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Use a specific fuel additive to fix a specific fuel problem. There are a few cases of using an additive in advance of a problem, such as a fuel stabilizer for fuel that is in storage. Otherwise, most additives are a waste of money and do no good. Even if use of an additive gives more mpg, does it actually give a lower fuel cost per mile? If it doesn't more than pay for itself, it is a loser.

Many of us, myself included, run ethanol laden 87 octane with no problems. If I am planning on keeping some E10 (10% ethanol) gas more than a month, I'll add a stabilizing additive (lawnmower fuel during the fall, etc). Otherwise, ethanol is more of a bogey man than a real problem. I must say that I thoroughly enjoy a glass of ethanol mixed with juniper berry extract to marinate an olive before dinner....

The Vee's problems will take more than a fuel additive to solve. I feel that most (all?) Lucas products are all hype and no benefit. Their oils are probably OK but worth no extra cost. Their additives...meh.

The local small engine shop has multiple stories of the regional 87 octane gas gumming up the valve stems and causing sticking intake valves. They never have this problem with customers they've convinced to use 92 octane gas, including the commercial lawn mowing operators. I do not think this applies to stroms, at least it hasn't to mine.

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Ethanol eats rubber, at least the fuel line in my Stihl Chainsaw. Thats what my trusty dealer said caused it to crack and fail. Use good rubber when replacing your fuel lines, we just had a cycle shop burn to the ground cause a fuel line spewed gas on a running engine and the mechanics werent very good firemen either.

My Vee engine is bone stock and runs fine on any 87 with any ethanol I have found. It stumbles at low rpm now and then, but did that with hi-test too when I tried it. I stopped wasting my money and went back to 87. I agree with whoever it was said that if it aint pinging, you got good enough.

Stabil for storage is the only additive I use, sometime seafoam for same.

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