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post #1 of 11 Old 06-20-2012, 08:34 AM Thread Starter
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Downshifting Question - gear sticking

I have had this happen on my new DL650A and I've also experienced it on every previous bike I've owned. It's not a problem, I just want to know what's happening in the transmission when this occurs.

The progression goes like this: I am in a high gear and slow down for a corner or stop. The RPM gets very low (maybe below idle sometimes) before I grab the clutch. Then I can shift one gear but it will not shift down again until I release the clutch lever slightly. It makes a clicking noise as the clutch is released then I depress the clutch again and I can shift once more. This often happens when trying to get to 1st but I've had it happen in nearly all the gears. Sometimes it occurs on each downshift through the series.

Described another way its sort of like double clutching a truck...

I know it has something to do with engine speed being so low but I don't know what parts in the tranny are affecting this behavior. It it bad for the bike?
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post #2 of 11 Old 06-20-2012, 08:42 AM
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I suggest you start down shifting at a higher RPM, 3K or higher, see if that sloves your problem.
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post #3 of 11 Old 06-20-2012, 08:51 AM
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What you describe is normal. It's because the gears need to be moving to affect a proper gear change in a constant mesh sequential gearbox. It won't hurt anything unless a car seems intent on occupying the same space and time as your bike and you can't move. Downshift while you still have some speed. It's best to be in the proper gear for the speed you are traveling.

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Downshift sooner, before entering turns at higher rpm 3k is good as another member suggested. You will hopefully never have this problem again.

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THe old procedure called double clutching might help in the case of coming to a stop in a high gear. It means you work the throttle a bit and the clutch while also working the shifter. You are trying to match the gear speeds as you down shift.
Practice, practice, practice.
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Go to a scrapyard and buy an old bike engine.
Open it up and look at the transmission. It will all become clear when you see how the dogs engage the gears.
If it doesn't become clear, buy a bike with an automatic transmission.
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THe old procedure called double clutching might help in the case of coming to a stop in a high gear. It means you work the throttle a bit and the clutch while also working the shifter. You are trying to match the gear speeds as you down shift.
Practice, practice, practice.
Double clutching is when you place the shifter in neutral, quickly let-out the clutch, blip the throttle and then move to the next higher or lower gear. Old time truckers did this when transmissions were not syncronized. Due to the sequential nature of m/c transmissions true double clutching isnot possible.
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Aside from your shifting quandries, the importance of being in the right gear for the speed traveled lies in the possible necessity to execute an emergency manuever. If you are busy fiddling with your clutch and shifting or are in too high of a gear for your speed, the ability to power through or away from a dangerous situation is greatly reduced.

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