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post #1 of 20 Old 10-25-2006, 03:08 AM
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Considering a sportier bike (?)

I bought a new '06 DL 1000 about a month ago. I've put about 1k miles on it and have spent close to $400 on some different windscreen options and am pretty close to a wind buffeting solution...I think it will take one more windscreen to do it. I do 100% street riding. I wanted something that could be a an occasional commuter and an all day riding bike.

Something has me looking at bikes such as the ZX-14 and the Ducati ST3. I don't want to go fast, but I am in search of perhaps a better street solution?. I see some people are using the supersport bikes such as the Hayabusa and ZX-14 for sport tourers. I guess I am wondering about the feasability of the V for 100% street riding with a sport touring flair. It seems many owners buy the V with the intent of going off road and I assume accept it for what it is on the street. They may also get it as a second bike to have some variety. I am tall, so I figured a sport bike would not fit me too well (and many of them don't), but I know other tall riders are going sport for an all day bike and liking it. The ZX-14 actually feels not that bad to me. I know that hands down the V will be less costly to own than a Ducati, but on the other hand we need to be happy with our ride.

The whole wind buffeting trial and error thing has taken a bit of a toll on me, so I am trying to keep that out of mind, but on the other hand I can't help think that a sportier bike will have a smoother airflow and be more tollerable, even if more of me is in the wind.

If I do keep the V, I figure it will take another $1000 or so to finish it off with a smaller front sprocket, new pipes (stock is waaay too quiet) and FI mapping.

What are your thoughts? Anyone having similar thoughts as me? If you also own a Hayabusa or ZX-14, which would you choose for an all day ride?
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I just figure El Bandito is the sportier alternative.

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Sounds like you've sold yourself on a different bike.

We can't tell you what will make you happy. I know, for me, the Strom is as close to a perfect bike as I will find. Reasonable power delivery, reasonable comfort, reasonable handling and lots of versitility. A good combination for me.

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I own a sportbike, a 2005 Kawasaki ZX-6R. I'm tall at 6' 3" and put in long days on the Ninja bike with no pain (400+ miles of twisties, no slab). I've got long arms so I'm more upright than most folks on a sportbike, but my elbows hit my knees sometimes too.

All that said, I don't think I'm any slower in the twisties on my Wee Strom than on the Ninja bike. And I'm certainly more comfortable.

When I demo'd the V-Strom (1000), I thought it was a lot less nimble than the 650. Less nimble the Buell Ulysses I demo'd the same morning (same route) and way less nimble than the Ducati Multistrada "S" I demo'd that afternoon (wonderful bike, pricey).

I demo'd a ZX-14 this summer and it's a great bike. Not as nimble as a sportbike in the tight stuff, but really nice for everything else. Sporty but sane/comfy ergos, good suspension and brakes and lots of smooth power.
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I cant believe nobody has suggested the madstad windscreen bracket http://www.madstad.com/servlet/Categ...le+Accessories as a solutions to the buffeting issue. :shock:

It costs $69.95 and a lot of people are really happy with that and just a stock screen [including me]. Have a bash at that before spending thousands on a new bike, wilya?
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I do 99% of my riding on pavement and I got the 650 over a sportier bike for the riding position and passenger comfort. It will probably be a stepping stone for me on my way to bigger tourers like the Honda ST or the new Kawi Concours.

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Have a bash at that before spending thousands on a new bike, wilya?
Maybe i'm reading it differently but I don't see his post saying that he is changing because of the windscreen. In fact it says he's almost worked that part out.

But I do agree. The MadStad with the MP Cycle Designs screen was the ticket for me.

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The Bandit is a great bike, I owned a 2003 Bandit 1200s. It is one of the best bikes in motorcycling...."like the Strom's"! But.......I can ride the Strom much quicker in the twisties than I ever could with the Bandit, and MUCH further! The Bandit is a capable sport tourer, but it isn't in the same league as the Stroms IMHO. The Bandit is a wicked fast bike, that has plenty of aftermarket goodies. You get allot of bang for your buck! I am a little surprised of your evaluation of the Strom's street capabilites. I have ridden ALLOT of bikes...and I feel that the Strom is one of the best touring bikes on the market, as well as the "other" places it can go too. There are TONS of aftermarket goodies for the Stroms, that can make it faster, louder, more comfy, better handling, and more long distance worthy. How many bikes can offer you all that?

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Sounds like you've sold yourself on a different bike.

We can't tell you what will make you happy. I know, for me, the Strom is as close to a perfect bike as I will find. Reasonable power delivery, reasonable comfort, reasonable handling and lots of versitility. A good combination for me.

Good luck.
Heavy's nailed it. I am reading and re-reading your post and I just don't understand it.

You've had this thing for 1000 miles. It isn't even broken in. You say you are looking for a street bike with a sport touring flair, a good all day ride and an excellent commuter. Dude, you have one.

In 1000 miles you have already spent $400.00 on windshields, with one more to go. You already know that you need a 16T front sprocket, new pipes and a FI re-map. You haven't even given this bike a chance.

My opinion, FWIW, is that you bought the bike, then started digesting everything you read on the forums. I did the same thing. I bought an 06, and before I had 100 miles on it , I was convinced that my windshield sucked, Deathwings were no good, it ran the shits, needed a PC or a Yosh, seat is crap, ran lousy between 3000-4000, cost too much, it was too top heavy, had more power than I really needed, got lousy mileage, wasn't very flickable, and had lots of issues. If I had a ledge, I'd have jumped off.

So now I have 7000 km on it. I've commuted on it, taken some great trips, and the bike has done everything I have asked of it. It has been great and keeps getting better. And of all those things that I was told were inadequacies, they have been a non event. I have changed NOTHING on that bike.

You already have a bike that is an all day ride, good commuter and a street bike with a sport touring flair. Not to many V 1000 guys spend a great deal of time off road. In my opinion the V is an outstanding street bike with perfect ergos for an all day ride.

What do you find lacking in the V as a street bike. I don't know what you are looking for, but I hope you find it.
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post #10 of 20 Old 10-25-2006, 12:02 PM
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I do have Madstad. My windscreen solution right now consists of: Madstad + CalSci screen + standard Laminar Lip. Adding the Lip really helped smooth out the airflow, and with the Madstad I have it angled almost as far back as it will go. Assuming I keep the bike, I will get a Givi to use with the Madstad and the Lip just because I think the Givi looks better and will function better in colder weather than the CalSci. I'll cut the CalSci down even more than I have and make it my hot weather screen.

I did ride a Kawi Z750s the other day with a bunch of mods, and I can say I definitely perfer the V-Strom over the Z.

I am thinking that getting the pipes and dropping the gearing may make the difference I am looking for. I am used to a tall top heavy bike...my last bike was a Concours. I feel fine throwing the DL 1000 in to corners, and I use it in stop and go traffic.

I think one of the questions that I am trying to answer is: Did I buy a bike for one purpose (street touring) and its sweet spot of purpose is something else (dual purpose). So am I dealing with inconveniences and looking to to do upgrades for things that would not be an issue with a street bike? From my experience with some of my hobbies, I am am believer in buying more out of the box rather than doing a bunch of mods to something to make it work. That's why I am stopping to look at things now since I feel I am at the point of sinking another $1000+ in to the bike. Of course any bike will require some mods...if I go the sport bike route I'll be buying bar raisers and lower pegs and a new screen.
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