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post #1 of 30 Old 05-06-2012, 08:04 PM Thread Starter
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wind/water proof liner question

Granted, I've not been motorcycling for a bunch of years, but in the few that I have, I have never understood why motorcycle jacket and pant manufacturers address wind and water issues with a LINER that goes on the INSIDE of the jacket or pants, rather than a SHELL that goes over the top of the jacket or pants. I'm guessing that I'm missing something here, but from my logic, using a shell is so very much easier/practical. First, it's easier to put on and off - not having to go throught the hassle of putting the liner inside the coat if it looks like it might rain, then pull it out of the coat when it's done raining. Second, by going over the jacket or pants, it keeps the jacket and pants dry as well as the rider dry. Otherwise, the jacket and pants get wet with a liner.

I know there must be a reason for the liner approach rather than the shell approach - can someone tell me the likely obvious? Thanks!

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I don't care which way it is as long as it keeps me dry and my new Tourmaster Air 3 did just that this weekend. I like the way the liner works on this jacket as it is the Hi Viz yellow jacket.

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I'm with you on the top priority of being dry. But when the rain goes away and the sun comes out on a ride, why does one have to take one's pants off and strip down to his shorts along side the road in order to remove a liner when it'd be a lot easier to remove a shell and leave ones pants on?

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best $90 for rain gear Frogg Toggs Elite Highway Rain Gear that fits OVER your riding gear. CAUTION keep away from hot pipes - it melts.

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I think you have asked the question that has an oblique answer. I've wonder about the sense of it myself. Makes no logic to saturate the outer garment in a down pour. Other that makes said garment porous to the wind for those hot days when your liner is safely tucked in the side case.
I bought a Hein Gerike jacket with liner for $30 at a rally just for the liner. It's great light weight jacket on it's own.
I carry rain gear for those really nasty occasions that the Aerostitch gets wet through and through.
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You must be reading my mind Mike. The problem I have with liners is the pants get wet and heavy in moderate rain, even if you end up staying dry.

There does not seem to be much out there for "shell" type pants with good crash protection. Or maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

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So that your riding jacket with all it's pockets is always on the outside?
I sometimes wear shorts so if I need to add/remove my pants liner I'm not fussing around in my underwear.

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For one thing, the shell is what meets the road in a drop. With the liner inside, you have a chance of having functional gear after going down.

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Thought about that but a shell could just as easily have some handy pockets. I come from a hiking background and the rain shells are designed for just that reason. Which is why I pack one of my hiking shells when motorcycling. But that still doesn't explain why the mcycle jacket manufacturer couldn't go the shell route with the main jacket instead of a liner . . .

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True. However A person can still access a fair bit of the stuff from the regular coat pockets when stopped . . .easier than the hassle of removing liners.

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For one thing, the shell is what meets the road in a drop. With the liner inside, you have a chance of having functional gear after going down.

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